The process has started!

smc wrote:

smc wrote:

Well I got the phone call this morning.

The guy was fairly pleasant, said the form would arrive anytime within the next 5-6 weeks, couldn't say exactly when, and then I will have about a month to get it back to them.

He did try to tell me form was just like the ones I have done in the past, well having seen the ESA50 it is not "just like" the IB50!!!

I forgot to say I asked the guy about the two different groups, work related and support and he told me the support group was only for people with very severe illness/disability like terminal cancer and that most people will be in the work related group. Surely there are a lot of other conditions that are not terminal but where the person is so affected that they couldn't possibly work, surely they should be in support group?

In an ideal world yes, but thats not whats going to happen..., we all think we should be in the support group I think I should!!!!!!! my gut feeling is 8% will get in at the most .....and half of them wont get in till they appeal IMO

smc wrote:

smc wrote:

Well I got the phone call this morning.

The guy was fairly pleasant, said the form would arrive anytime within the next 5-6 weeks, couldn't say exactly when, and then I will have about a month to get it back to them.

He did try to tell me form was just like the ones I have done in the past, well having seen the ESA50 it is not "just like" the IB50!!!

I forgot to say I asked the guy about the two different groups, work related and support and he told me the support group was only for people with very severe illness/disability like terminal cancer and that most people will be in the work related group. Surely there are a lot of other conditions that are not terminal but where the person is so affected that they couldn't possibly work, surely they should be in support group?

I've heard that one before.

Obviously DWP clerks haven't the faintest idea what the difference between the two groups are and the qualifying conditions.

The media amd political focus on ESA recently was about cancer claimants. The wide perception is that you have to be exceptionally overwhelmingly ill to access the support group

In fact it is hard to access but that is as much because the DWP fail to identify, or the claimant or their advisors fail to try and nake it happen


In theory one can get into the SG on certain mental health grounds which would not under the old IB test have got one enough points to qualify at all.

So people will be put in the WRAG whom really can't work and they will have to attend work-focused interview and it will no doubt become apparent work is not possible, do they stay in WRAG or will they get moved into SG?

So people are going to have to attend these interviews regularly(?) despite the fact there is no chance they can work, what a waste of everyone's time and effort.