Benefits and Work readers have come out overwhelmingly against the Timms review “emerging recommendation” that personal independence payment (PIP) awards should be linked to costs.

On 15 September we set up a survey asking our readers a single question:

“The Timms review is suggesting that individual PIP awards could be based on a fair contribution towards costs, including: equipment and aids; mobility and transport; clothing and bedding. What best sums up your reaction to this idea?

  • Support
  • Don’t support
  • Don’t know”

We closed the survey two days later, with over 5,000 readers having taken part.

The response was very clear. 

Support:  10%

Don’t support:  80%

Don’t know;  10%

We also invited readers to comment on the proposal and we have published around 100 comments here. 

But, in total, there were almost 4,000 comments and, whilst we have read many hundreds of them, it was not possible for us to summarise them ourselves.

So, we turned the job over to AI and you can read the full summary here.

We know that readers were being asked to give an opinion on a proposal that is very far from clear.  We don’t have any indication of precisely what the Timms review has in mind when it talks about a “fair contribution towards costs”.

But that is the whole issue.  The government committed to the review being co-produced with disabled people, organisations representing them and other stakeholders. Timms has also told MPs that the review is being co-produced with disabled people.

In truth it has been carried out in circumstances of great secrecy and with an almost total lack of genuine communication with disabled claimants.

The review is almost complete now, the current 15 workshops and discussions with unnamed charities will be the last piece of consultation before Timms’ final report to the secretary of state for work and pensions.

And yet we are all still in the dark about what they are planning, because that is where the Timms panel have chosen to keep us.

It didn’t have to be this way. 

A report released this week by the right-leaning Re:State think tank, (whose former deputy director is Liz Truss), sets out a range of cost-based award systems used in other countries. 

For example, there could be a relatively low basic payment with higher payments dependent on evidence of actual costs. Denmark now operates a system in which some recipients receive a standard payment while those with higher costs can opt for support calculated using documented expenditure. Other systems require receipts, invoices or other evidence of costs.

Some support could also be provided directly in the form of goods or services rather than cash. The Re:State report gives examples including assistive equipment, home adaptations, transport support and payments made directly to service providers.

At the very least the Timms’ update could have explained which model or models it was considering or whether it was looking at a plan of its own devising.

If they don’t know that, with only around two months at most before their final report, then that is deeply concerning.

If they do know what they are considering, then why aren’t they sharing?  Giving the most minimal details possible, perhaps for fear of information being leaked from workshop attendees anyway, does not amount to co-production.

We ended this survey after just two days because we wanted to publish the results before the remaining 14 Timms workshops take place.  We hope that there will be Benefits and Work readers at those workshops who will be able to share your views with the review.

But, following the overwhelming response of our readers, if the Timms review now recommends a costs-based system, the claim that the plan has been co-produced with disabled people - and thus is supported by them - will ring very hollow indeed.

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    · 10 days ago
    Hi everyone,

    I couldn’t find any pre-made letter templates online to challenge the Timms Review draft recommendations published on 9th September 2026, so I created one with the help of AI using key policy points from the recent Disability Rights UK briefing and structure from my May 2026 Call for Evidence submission.

    I’ve removed my own specific lived experience examples and personal information to keep it confidential and flexible and replaced them with [INSERT] or [DELETE] etc.
    I’m posting it here in case it’s helpful to others who want to send a formal complaint to Sir Stephen Timms and their local MP without having to draft something from scratch. Feel free to copy, adapt, and share it.

    EXAMPLE LETTER TEMPLATE: Complaint - Timms Review Draft Recommendations (Sept 2026)

    TO: Sir Stephen Timms MP (Minister for Social Security and Disability & Co-Chair, The Timms Review) Department for Work and Pensions (DWP)
    CC:
    [YOUR LOCAL MP NAME] MP (Member of Parliament for [YOUR CONSTITUENCY])
    Debbie Abrahams MP (Chair, Work and Pensions Select Committee)
    Clerk, Work and Pensions Select Committee
    Officers of the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) for Disability

    SUBJECT: Formal Complaint & Feedback: Timms Review Draft Recommendations (Sept 2026) — Rejection of Non-Cash Awards, Cost Categories, and Deficit in Co-Production

    DATE: [ADD DATE)

    Dear Sir Stephen Timms and Steering Group Co-Chairs,

    I am writing to formally lodge a complaint and submit urgent feedback regarding the Timms Review Draft Recommendations published on 9th September 2026.

    I am an individual living with [INSERT - disability / disabilities, health conditions, and living arrangements if appropriate]. I submitted detailed written evidence to the Review's Call for Evidence in May 2026, to ensure the reality of living with long term, complex, multiple, invisible, fluctuating condition(s) [DELETE - as appropriate] was properly understood.

    Having reviewed the September draft recommendations, I align myself fully with the briefing issued by Disability Rights UK (DR UK) challenging these proposals. The current direction of travel undermines the core purpose of PIP and threatens the independence, health, and financial stability of disabled people.

    Opposition to the Draft Recommendations (DR UK Key Points Backed by My Lived Experience)

    1. Opposition to Non-Cash Support and Restricted "Cost Categories"
    •    DR UK Position: PIP must remain a 100% cash-based benefit. Replacing cash awards with "services, vouchers, or non-cash support" and restricting claims to rigid "cost categories" (e.g., equipment, transport, clothing) strips disabled people of choice, control, and autonomy while creating extensive administrative burdens.
    •    My Lived Experience: Everyone’s personal circumstances are completely different, and every individual has unique needs and associated costs. My disability-related costs are complex, non-standardised, and essential for managing my specific conditions. I rely on cash PIP to pay for [INSERT - Discuss additional costs related to your specific disability if comfortable]. Forcing non-cash alternatives or pre-approved categories would destroy the self-management strategies that keep me functioning [DELETE – If not applicable]. [INSERT - Discuss lack of NHS or social care support for your specific disability if appropriate].

    2. Failure to Account for Disabled Homeowners
    •    DR UK Position: Pre-approved cost categories fail to cover the true, real-world overheads of independent living, risking deeper poverty and health deterioration for disabled people.
    •    My Lived Experience: [INSERT - Discuss general living costs e.g. housing costs not covered by disability benefits and/or independent living overheads related to your specific situation].

    3. Rejection of Differential Pathways and "Hierarchies of Disability"
    •    DR UK Position: Introducing different assessment pathways or cost categories based on impairment type risks creating an unfair "hierarchy of disability" based on government perception rather than actual need.
    •    My Lived Experience: [INSERT - Discuss how the system or descriptors fail your specific disability / disabilities].

    4. Severe Psychological Impact and Risk to Health Recovery
    •    DR UK Position: Replacing cash support with restrictive non-cash models causes worsening health, distress, and poverty outcomes for disabled people.
    •    My Lived Experience: [INSERT - Discuss the mental/physical impact of continuous benefit uncertainty or reassessment stress on your specific disability].

    5. Breakdown of Genuine Co-Production and Exclusionary Workshops
    •    DR UK Position: The Review has failed to demonstrate genuine co-production, relying on top-down processes rather than equal power-sharing with disabled people.
    •    My Lived Experience: Prior to the draft recommendations, the Review promoted "Workshop in a Box" initiative sessions, yet I found no suitable or accessible sessions advertised in my region or online. Furthermore, when I applied for a place in the official "Shaping Recommendations" workshops, I was not allocated a place. Restricting co-production workshop slots excludes thousands of claimants. Gathering consultation data without granting disabled people shared decision-making power over final drafts is not genuine co-production.

    6. Absolute Separation of PIP from Work Capability
    •    DR UK Position: PIP must not be used as a passport or gateway to the health component of Universal Credit or work capability assessments.
    •    My Lived Experience: PIP exists to help meet the extra costs of disability and support independent living. Merging or linking PIP with work capability assessments or conditionality creates immense insecurity, particularly for individuals whose health has deteriorated through trying to sustain work [DELETE if not applicable].

    Systemic Context / Conclusion

    PIP cannot be viewed in isolation from the wider breakdown in healthcare and social support and cost of living and housing crisis. [INSERT – Discuss further if needed or summarise key themes].

    Actions Requested

    Before any final recommendations are presented to Parliament or Ministers, I urge the Steering Group and the DWP to take the following actions:
    1.    Reaffirm PIP as an All-Cash Benefit: Explicitly drop all proposals involving vouchers, service substitutions, or restrictive cost categories, maintaining the 100% cash structure that protects individual autonomy.
    2.    Abandon Differential Pathways: Ensure assessment processes treat all health conditions and impairments equitably based on lived impact rather than diagnostic groupings.
    3.    Reopen Accessible Digital Feedback Channels: Provide open, asynchronous digital consultation mechanisms so individuals excluded from limited workshop slots can critique and challenge the 9th September draft recommendations.
    4.    Extend the Review Schedule: Slow down the timeline to allow Disabled People’s Organisations (DPOs), the Work and Pensions Select Committee, and claimants adequate time to scrutinise proposals.
    5.    Publish Co-Production Audits: Publish transparent metrics demonstrating how written submissions from the May 2026 Call for Evidence were evaluated and incorporated into the draft recommendations.

    I request a formal written response acknowledging this complaint and outlining how my May 2026 submission and these objections will be addressed before final recommendations are submitted to Government. I am happy to share my full Call for Evidence submission (May 2026) again, which is available on request.

    Yours sincerely,

    [YOUR NAME]
    [YOUR CONSTITUENCY / POSTCODE]
    Email: [YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS]

    EMAIL ADDRESSES TO SEND LETTER TO:
    TO:
    •    timmss@parliament.uk
    •    ministers@dwp.gov.uk
    CC:
    •    workpencom@parliament.uk
    •    appgdisability@parliament.uk
    •    [INSERT APPG EMAIL FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DISABILITY / DISABILITIES IF APPLICABLE]
    •    [INSERT YOUR LOCAL MP'S EMAIL ADDRESS]
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      · 8 days ago
      @Klmth Great
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      · 9 days ago
      @Anon 101 Thank you for this - I shall work on my version 
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      · 9 days ago
      @Anon 101 Thank you for the effort involved in this..❤️
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    · 11 days ago
    Firstly, I think it is a disgrace that the government have the right to tell anyone how, what and where they can spend their money. 
    To get pip I think it is long winded in how you have to apply in the first place. Nothing is digital, you have to sit and complete the 65 page document, and provide all the evidence. 
    Then on top of that, you may or have to attend a medical assessment. This is an interview about what you can do, not so much about your actual disability. 
    I was success, and received the care  component. This was only valid for three years. Coming up to the expiry date, I asked to be re-assessed as my disability had declined. You have to again, complete the 65 page document again with a covering letter as to what has changed. This was like an appeal application and it takes about two months for a response. 
    Again, I was successful and received help with care and mobility component.
    Each one of us who are disabled, need pip money not only to buy food, pay bills etc, etc. We all have lives to live. We are all human beings, living with a disability can be quite debilitating for some, therefore, it's having the money to help us individually to live our lives as best as we possible can. Being independent, having some freedom, not beinf dictated too. We are all entitled to  receive happiness, love and support. 
    My conclusion is for the government  to scratch the idea of a payment card and for everyone to be treated with respect, with dignity, non-judgemental and being treated equally. If the government want to save money and they appear to want to cut our funding, which we are all entitled too. i would suggest everyone receives cash payment. They could have a set scale, of 1-10 with different amounts, depending on the severity of your disability, needs and support required.  This could be higher or lower as to what we receive at the moment. If the government want to save money, it's all about catching those who defraud the DWP  and beat the system. That's millions saved straight away. 
    Don't take it from those who are disabled
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    · 12 days ago
    @Robbie,  Question 9 did explain it briefly. They said everyone has a short triage conversation, and the pathway is decided from that based on what they described as the claimant’s ‘level of need’. No criteria or examples were given, just that the triage determines whether someone goes onto the cash support pathway or the support only pathway.

    If Benefits and Work have an email address, I’m happy to send the full ‘Shaping Recommendations Workshop – A Reformed PIP: Evidence and Support Key Principles’ document with the 24 points. A lot of the detail was discussed verbally, and three members of the TIMMS Review Panel were present to take questions.
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      · 11 days ago
      @Mollie Thanks @Mollie.

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      · 12 days ago
      @Mollie @mollie you can email info@benefitsandwork.co.uk 
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    · 12 days ago
    I attended one of the PIP reform workshops on Tuesday. The language used to describe the new model is very positive — participation, support, independence, choice and control — but the structural change is significant because it alters how people access cash support, which will still be available for some claimants.

    No health condition was singled out. Everyone who applies will have a short initial interview. The new model triages people into two pathways: either you are placed on the cash support pathway and given a claim form, or you are triaged to the support‑only pathway for non‑cash services.
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      · 12 days ago
      @Mollie @Mollie Thanks for that useful insight. Did you find out how the pathway was decided?
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      · 12 days ago
      @Mollie But who decides what you can or can't have funding for if you make a claim? We are so varied in what we need. 

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    · 13 days ago
    I may as well just give up now then. 
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    · 14 days ago
    If they changed the system to one based on our costs, and reliant on receipts, who gets to decide what we can and cannot be funded for? Who administers the paperwork? How do you prove you need something? Our needs are very complex and variable, and sometimes hard for others to understand. Will we have to justify our needs each time we pay for something? For example, I pay to go to a local physio because I cannot travel to, or cope with, the free NHS provision. It's simply not accessible to me. At the moment PIP gives me the choice to decide what's best for me and my health. 
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      · 13 days ago
      @LB Exactly, right now it's up to the claimant how they use the money they receive (as long as it's legal, of course). So please leave us alone or does the government want a repeat of what happened back in the 2010s?
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    · 14 days ago
    Well the way I see it if they don’t think  they realize pip money will be going back into the economy one way or another we have to eat , pay bills and so on it’s not getting stored under my mattress . So the government gets it back one way or another. Now I’ve found out yesterday my brain tumor is growing I’m still been working on reduced hours pay my tax national insurance. Now I’m wondering if they do away with pip I will probably be better taking ill health retirement and live off universal credit . It’s in there hands
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    · 14 days ago
    This really bothers me as its more about physical equipment, to my knowledge there is nothing in the gov rules as to what the money we receive is for except for help with the extra costs of being disabled.... Mine includes being used for the prescribed medical cannabis i have for my pain  are they going to give me vouchers for that, or the extra household utility costs because your housebound or ubers in the past when needed for appointments because you cant go on public transport, they are probably spending more money on this stupid review than they will ever save, as again its going to cost them so much more to put right the wrongs they are doing, im sick of people who do not have a clue what they are talking about being the ones to dictate our lives...... 
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    · 15 days ago
    Many will have seen the news in relation to the Government borrowing figures. Sadly I think there will be welfare cuts and tax increases. Burnham will suddenly find that he has become very unpopular. And he won't risk an early election.
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      · 13 days ago
      @N.B.C No, it was the other way around! Blair’s government left the note for the incoming Tories.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Debs Wasn't that quite literally what the Tories did when they handed over to Blairs new labour, left a note saying no money left,its all gone. Or something like that anyway.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Matt The amount of borrowing is eye watering, cause to take a sharp intake of breath.
      There will be yet another note on the desk of the new Chancellor next time we vote, “There is no money left, good luck”.
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      · 14 days ago
      @Matt Cuts are coming whoever's in charge.
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    · 16 days ago
    While it is about saving money It is more about looking like they are saving money As often little to no money is saved Often the costs actually go up It just ends up being paid from a different pot Like moving some of the unemployed onto other benefits So it looked like unemployment had reduced But while savings look to be made They usually are due to those who are targeted suffer the consequences If they decide to means test PIP life could get even bumpier The government works with smoke and mirrors Slight of hand Along with misdirection As much as it can Never owning up to the truth Where ever possible 
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      · 14 days ago
      @David C Macfie That's what I did involved cab in a potential upcoming tribunal but got an accepted DWP offer before any time and place was decided.
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      · 14 days ago
      @CC While I agree, it's the DWP that has always operated the "smoke and mirrors" as opposed to the government. Whatever stripe of government that is... Yes, government has "responsibility" for what the DWP does, but DWP are a semi-autonomous ministry, and have been since Thatcher! Government are fed information on a least useful basis... Timms will always be used in the negative!
      If we allow this to happen... Write or email your MP, whatever their party, and set out your fears and concerns ... Involve Citizens Advice in your claims... But mainly DO NOT REMAIN SILENT!!! ACT NOW!!!
      I have successfully appealed my pip, involving MP, CAB, so this does have an effect.... Staying silent only gives victory to the DWP...
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      · 15 days ago
      @CC The rob Peter to pay Paul dilemma then?
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    · 18 days ago
    So basically it's a badly managed government stitch up? Wouldn't be surprised if the failed attempt last year east just meant as a trial run in order to single out those who are against such things so that when they finally unveil their true colours like they now seem to be doing they will have a better ideas who to target in order to keep them in line with the government dictate. Sorry for being long winded but right now I'm ruddy terrified and just want to be left in peace.

    Thank you for tolerating me.
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      · 14 days ago
      @N.B.C Not at all. Be long winded - my comments are longer than yours. Don’t apologise for speaking out as it’s those that speak up do much to inform others.
      PS I’m sorry you’re terrified, just keep speaking up knowing that your voice is important.
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    · 18 days ago
    Will the Timms proposed changes include current pip recipient's, over state pension age. 

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      · 18 days ago
      @maggie Nobody knows for sure. But it is highly unlikely as the target is working age claimants and the previously proposed then abandoned 4pt PIP rule excluded those over state pension age and anyone else with a ongoing/indefinite/for life/light touch review every 10 years.
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    · 18 days ago
    So if this idea doesn’t end up being THE pip replacement for whatever reason( unworkable and costly to implement / negative response from mps and claimants etc) what does their plan b look like?
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    · 18 days ago
    So the Govt. Want to save money. They are acting as if they have our best interests at heart, I trust no single Government.  I remember once a long time ago needing food vouchers, it was a demeaning experience you were not able to buy cigarettes, alcohol. I wasn’t a smoker or drinker and of course you had to hand over the voucher with people all around seeing that you were ‘poor’.
    I do not agree with vouchers, or being told who I have to buy equipment from, what if they are rubbish quality and totally unsuitable?.
    Within the last 10 years PIP denied me anything more than two year awards, I really needed an automatic car eventually as my manual car got older I was forced to get car on HP using the PIP, however, unlike a Motability car I don’t get the extras ie tyres, servicing etc.
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    · 18 days ago
    I have just seen on Instagram that Timm's is to suggest making PIP means tested. Has anyone else seen this, is it true?
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      · 14 days ago
      @Minxycat PIP is exactly what's being targeted, which means everyone on this thread has a right to be worried. "Your existing award remains in place under the current rules" doesn't help much if they're intending to change the existing rules. And of course nothing will be changed retrospectively. They're not going to say: you received £700pm for the last 5 years. We're going to change that to £350pm and some vouchers, so you now need to give us back the extra £350pm you received for the last 5 years. Any changes made will be for new applications and all those currently on PIP at their next review.
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      · 16 days ago
      @Pete. Yes this is one of their ideas they could use to save money It could be harsh and cruel especially if it ends up being a cliff face rather than a gradual tapering off of PIP Like it is for those on child benefit 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Pete. Labour has ruled out means testing PIP and stated the Timms review will not consider means testing PIP.

      The origin of the disinformation is probably misreporting the recent IFS think tank report on PIP which had means testing as one of it's suggestion. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Pete. The important things are:

      * Your existing award remains in place under the current rules.
      * Timms has not announced that existing 10-year awards will be retrospectively converted to a receipts/cost-based system.
      * The emerging proposals actually recognise that people with long-term conditions whose circumstances aren’t expected to improve shouldn’t face unnecessary reassessments.
      * The final recommendations haven’t been published yet, and Parliament/Government would still have to determine how any eventual changes apply to existing claimants.

      So I think it’s sensible to wait for the actual final recommendations rather than letting some of the frightening headlines make you think your award has already been targeted.
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    · 18 days ago
    Stress and inconvenience are legally accepted compensation concepts that relate particularly to mental disability.  PIP should also compensate for these which don't fit into Timms' cost-cutting.  It is a legal obligation for the Government to provide equality of esteem for mental as much as physical disability.
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      · 14 days ago
      @A I thought that was also an obligation for the NHS, but it doesn't apply in reality.
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    · 19 days ago
    They are only looking at options to cut the benefit thats what it is all about .
    They are not bothered how it would effect us mentally & physically .
    Just another party looking at ways to make it harder to claim .
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    · 19 days ago
    So one out of 10 disabled people support their own demise?  Wow, much higher than I'd have thought!  
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      · 14 days ago
      @Alex From the replies, I think some people believe that there will be equipment/practical help as well as existing payments. It's so vague that people could interpret it in different ways, deliberately so probably.
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      · 18 days ago
      @robbie Why should I respect views which are going to influence my finances negatively? Their misguided views will inevitably lead to the government pushing ahead with a system that will remove cash for certain conditions/disabilities (one of which could be mine), thus I'm afraid I certainly won't be 'respecting' their opinion. An opinion which will contribute to the poverty of countless people is not worth respecting. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @thelux Or not trolls, but people voting according to what they would like, even if they are mistaken about what is on offer.

      We should respect alternative views, not assume they are hostile imposters.
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      · 18 days ago
      @Mike
      @Mike if you mean taken away FROM people who need it, not everyone thinks that is what has been proposed. It is a valid interpretation, since the nature of the substitution of equipment etc for cash is far from clear.

      It is quite reasonable that some would welcome an exchange of, for example, part of their daily living award, in the same way as some have exchanged their mobility award for motability. I use my mobility award to buy, maintain and run a car - that is the best value for me, but for others it may not be.

      Clearly the majority of voters fear there is no beneficial offer, simply a trojan horse of cuts. However, I have, since this Timms news item broke, expressed my view that we cannot be for or against proposals which have as much been fabricated in the minds of the understandably wary as they have been explained by this latest Timms review update.

      If we are going to dismiss every vote on a survey which does not tally with our own view, there's no point in surveys.

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      · 19 days ago
      @keepingitreal An 'optimistic understanding' of money being snatched away by people who need it? Interesting take. 
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    · 19 days ago
    Me thinks no matter what happens we will all suffer and lose our mobility cars I do wonder what will happen to all them cars 
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