How do you think Labour will treat disabled claimants if, as seems increasingly likely, they form the next government?  Will they be better or worse than the Conservatives?

Last week’s Labour party manifesto left our readers divided on what the future might be like for disabled claimants under Labour.  The document made few references to benefits and gave no clues as to what its attitude would be to major issues such as ESA to UC migration, proposed Green paper changes to PIP or how exactly the WCA might be reformed.

Many readers felt that Labour was just being cautious, because any hint of being soft on claimants would be jumped on by the right-wing press.

Others thought that Labour were saying little because they do not have anything positive to say to disability benefits claimants.  Some think there is little difference between the two parties and some commentors even believe that Labour would be worse news for claimants than the Conservatives.

Certainly, the manifesto could have offered some hope to, for example Carer’s Allowance claimants. A change to the current cliff edge earnings limit would not have major cost implications.

And, to ensure claimant safety, Labour could have offered to look again at the very tight ESA to UC migration deadline imposed on the DWP by the Conservatives.  Delaying the transfer would not cost anything, given that it was previously delayed to 2028 to save money.

Labour could also have stated in the manifesto that they would look at the Green paper proposals for PIP, but that it was unlikely that a voucher system or a catalogue would play any part in any future plans.  Again, this would not have had cost implications.

None of these undertakings would have offered much in the way of ammunition to the right wing press, but all of them would have reassured claimants that Labour would give them some respite from the current relentless attacks.

On the other hand, no part of Labour’s plans include cutting benefits in order to raise cash for other purposes, such as tax cuts.

And, whilst they have said they will replace or reform the WCA, they have not suggested that they will reform PIP.

So, if benefits will play a major part in deciding who you will vote for, readers will have to make an educated guess as to what Labour might do based on minimal information.

Knowing what other claimants are thinking may be helpful in reaching a decision.

So, please take part in our poll to tell us whether you think life would be easier, harder or much the same under Labour rather than the Conservatives and, if you wish, give your reasons in the comments section below.

You can only vote once and we’ll publish the results on Monday 1 July.

 

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    Chantelle · 2 hours ago
    I understand the dilemma that people face when it comes to trusting Labour to treat the disabled better, but you have to remember that Labour is headed by a human rights lawyer who will be looking at the UN's declaration of the UK breaching disability rights under the last 14 years of Tory rule. Right now, Labour have to play the evil game of politics in order to win, by gunning for the center and right-leaning vote to gain a majority. Remember also that every time Labour come to power, they under-promise and over-deliver.

    If you are an undecided voter, take this advice; The Conservatives are in possibly their worst state in existence since their formation 200 years ago. The most successful party in the world, arguably, they have been in power for most of those years, but they rarely ever get the majority of the vote share and yet they get all the power they need when they win. Next week is perhaps the only time in our lifetimes where we can not only hand them their lowest number of seats in Parliament, but we also have the opportunity to unseat them from becoming the official opposition.

    Vote tactically, wherever you are (see stopthetories.vote) and we could see the Liberal Democrats become the official opposition to Labour. Just imagine how much Ed Davey would highlight the problems facing the disabled and carers. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to make the Tories go away for a long time, or even for good, as they will have far less media attention and opportunity for screen time as a 'smaller party' tends to suffer.
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    Ainsley · 17 hours ago
    I have been a Labour voter since I could vote , I don’t think they would dare step out of line on this topic, or the health service as they both go hand in hand . 
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    j · 22 hours ago
    I feel no one really cares about disabled people. 
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    AmyMCM · 1 days ago
    I don't have any confidence in Labour under Starmer to support benefit claimants. When people tell you who they are, believe them - and Starmer, Reeves, Streeting et al have been telling us who they are for a while now. The most recent example being Starmer describing benefit claimants as 'undignified' in the Telegraph. I don't believe this is an attempt to trick right-wing voters, I think it's his real opinion.

    I don't believe that putting pressure on them after they've won power will be effective. I've been too sick to work for nearly 20 years so I remember the axing of Incapacity Benefit and introduction of ESA by the last Labour govt. Plenty of organisations raised concerns about ESA, the WCA and Atos then, and they were ignored. Starmer has shown no willingness to listen to child poverty campaigners about removing the 2-child benefit cap and that would be extremely uncontroversial. So the idea he would become more compassionate about sickness benefits is unlikely imo.

    I understand the urge to get the Tories out, they have been horrendous, but I don't think anything will change under Labour, and our lives may even get worse. I voted Green as I live in a safe Labour seat where the Greens came second in the local elections last month. If I lived in a Tory/Lab marginal my decision might be different, but tbh even then I don't think I could vote for a party that is openly contemptuous of me, and people like me.
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    Matthew Leonard · 1 days ago
    Having watched, in horror, last night's Undercover A and E on channel four, Labour will be forced to spend many billions of pounds of taxpayers money to try and sort out some of the issues in the NHS, and in particular social care. The Treasury have always been very reluctant to do this due to the sheer cost.  If Labour do go down this road, then, as the Institute for Fiscal Studies have indicated, they will have to either raise taxes (probably council tax by revaluation) or cut public services. They will probably do both. The areas where they will probably cut are education, justice/prisons, international aid, defence, and in particular, social security.  I wouldn't be surprised if they did some of the following:

    a, tax PIP
    b, means test PIP (so anyone earning in excess of £30K will be ineligible)
    c, make eligibility much tighter, especially those conditions where there is a significant 'lifestyle' element to it, eg mental health issues medicated by alcohol/recreational drugs.
    d, merge PIP with UC

    I'd be interested in people's thoughts.....
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      Anon · 2 hours ago
      @Matthew Leonard Money will not fix the NHS, it needs a complete overhaul and is not sustainable in it's current form.
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    Tom Messere · 1 days ago
    I've gone for Option 2 though there could be hopes of Option 1 once they are ready to do something. For now they offer little, but the previous ideas and actions of New Labour was serious about pensioner and child poverty and child disability. For now the difference is less in any positive promises and more in what they would not do - eg raid PIP to fund tax cuts as the Tories once again seek to "balance the books on the backs of children and the disabled". If constituency boundaries hadn't changed, I would be voting Labour to unseat a Tory and former DWP Secretary, but in the new one there is a wider choice of more supportive parties as the likely contenders. hope all telly's survive the next weeks and you have a chance to vote wisely and make a difference :-)
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    Sarah · 1 days ago
    I'm planning to vote based on my local candidates for MP. I'm not satisfied with  any of the party leaders but at least let me vote for a candidate who will be a good MP for my constituency.

    If you live elsewhere, your best candidate for MP might be from a different party than mine.
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    Hopeful · 1 days ago
    I worked from the age of 16 until I became seriously ill at the age of 41 .iv always paid into the system hugely.I contributed to the system even more once I started my building companies and employed staff 'all on the books .I have 3 adult children that are all doing well and are also paying into the system due to the work ethics I installed in them .I could not continue to run my companies due to unwanted health issues. I'm in my 50,s now and  like other disabled people,needing help are made to beg and bow to the filthy rich MP,s for what is massively less than I paid in .ITS nothing new ,whenever the Government is in crisis they attack the poorest to appease the middle /upper class voters.
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    David · 1 days ago
    Reform party is a complete cretin 
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    Miss Susan Ashton · 2 days ago
    There is no difference between the two.
    I would not vote for any.
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    Reform Party · 2 days ago
    Labour will go ahead with £12bn welfare reform including PIP cuts. Same old Tories Same old Labour. Vote Reform Party please!
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      Aaron · 1 days ago
      @Reform Party Reform are just as bad, if not worse.  Green are the best for disabled, followed by lib dems.  Although lib dems have a history of lying(like the rest of them). 
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      Tomkins · 1 days ago
      @Reform Party You are REALLY in the wrong place to peddle that party
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    Kate · 2 days ago
    Sadly, Labour aren't even considering looking at at least 3 very easy reversals that would help ease the cost of living burden - 2 child limit, bedroom tax and benefit cap! 

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    Anon · 2 days ago
    Kier Starmer said yesterday that Labour is the party of working people and believe there is dignity in earning a wage, not handouts.
    Still think Labour are going to be better?
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      Cat · 1 days ago
      @Aw It's concerning that they haven't mentioned noting 
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      Aw · 1 days ago
      @Anon Yes, the Tories have said they will cut benefits to fund tax cuts, it's there in black & white. Labour have not put ANY benefit cuts in their manifesto. So Yes, absolutely they will be better in the short term and maybe beyond.
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      Timewarp · 2 days ago
      @Anon Note how people at the upper end of wealth never hesitate to award themselves and their cronies lots of money, while assuring  those at the lower end of income that (an illusion of) "dignity" somehow compensates for poverty.
      Yet utility bills can only be paid with money -- not "dignity". 
      Starmer is Cameron Mk.2 on steroids.
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    jlee... · 2 days ago
    Here comes the new boss;;;same as the old boss....
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    Sue · 2 days ago
    There is no difference between the two parties'
    Disabled people claiming PiP are being targeted to help fill the huge debt,  The country now finds itself in due the government's incapacity to run a country. 
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    Emma Davies · 2 days ago
    If Labour had a strategy to better disabled people's lives they would be telling us. Their silence deals volumes, they are no better than the tories. Vote Lib Dems or Green.
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      Aaron · 1 days ago
      @Emma Davies It's not that simple.  One step wrong for Labour and the media will use it against them.  We won't find out Labour's true intentions until they're in power.  I just hope they're not as bad as the tories. 
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      Aw · 1 days ago
      @Emma Davies And if everyone did that the Tories would get back in. In their first term they would bring in swingeing cuts to all benefits and we'd be in a right mess. Personally I wouldn't survive it, I'd be one of the fallen. Vote to oust the Tories or we're all doomed.
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    Emma · 2 days ago
    I’m hoping labour will be less harsh! I did send an email to leader of labour other day, while coming down from panic attack, to be more compassionate regarding disabled and welfare. The whole election and tories are making my mental health worse. I wanted to vote green but I will vote labour for tactical voting as my area close. I’m so depressed and in terror constantly. Good luck everyone and 🙏 
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      Cat · 1 days ago
      @Emma Me too Emma can't eat sleep terrified for the future just vote labour 
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    John · 3 days ago
    Also how are people supposed to make a claim for universal credit if they haven't got a computer or even internet. Also ESA wasn't supposed to go to UC by 2028 
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      Timewarp · 1 days ago
      @Anon Assistance no longer readily available to many thanks to all these years of cuts.
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      Aaron · 1 days ago
      @John No it wasn't, but they've brought the date forward.  They keep changing the goalposts all of the time. 

      We will be worse off on Universal Credit, as it doesn't have the severe disability premium. 
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      Anon · 1 days ago
      @John Citizens advice, welfare rights at local council, social workers and other organisations can help filling in the form.
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    John · 3 days ago
    Under labour back in 1997 and 2007 I can remember they didn't demololise disabled people and there wasn't a thing called universal credit. I've never voted conservative.
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      Anon · 2 days ago
      @John Labour have said they won't abolish UC if they win.  It was also Labour that brought in the WCA.
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    Heather · 3 days ago
    Labour has no empathy for disabled people  and their struggle.
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