Panicking as have pip assessment f2f review tomorr

Hi Gordon,
I have just got back from the drs who has now started me back on medication, for my mental axinety, which I must add is only got bad again due to the DWP making a mess out of my situation,

I called the Atos people this morning and said I wanted to make a complaint about the assesor, they said they will send me some paper work to fill out to make the complaint, I will be doing that but I feel it will get me no where, I have also called the pip people to get a copy of the form I filled in which I did not keep a copy of, I didn't really understand what all this was about until I had already filled in the form, so according to the assessor I have no problem with incontance yet I sat in my own we we for half of the time I was in the room,
when I fill the thing out here I will get 28 points or more, but according to her report there is nothing wrong with me in any factor,, I mean she has not even put anything for any score, I am of course going to get refused any pip as soon as the people read the report,
I am going to have to go to court as I dont think even after I write a letter and explain again my situation that they will change their mind as the assers report is the opposite of my condition!

I didn't go so much into detail on the form that I had to fill in before the assment and the woman who it says was a nurse didn't seem to listen to anything I said to her,,, according to her I was well kept,, perfect eye contact and no problem with my continance!!!!! I could not look her in the eye the whole time I was there , I explained as best I could but honestly and she has written a load of how do I say LIES!.. I am broken man,,

Gordon wrote: alesypalsy

If you are concerned about the information that you detailed in the form then you do have the option of making a new claim for PIP, this would also allow you to include the effects of the assessment process which you would not be able to do for an MR or appeal.

Gordon

Gordon thank you for your reply’s here , I am unsure what you mean, I should of been on pip until August 2019 but I had this assensemt , the form that came I filled in and ticked boxes that apply and gave brief outline of how I was affected , I did not go into great detail as I thought this form was just a thing they send everyone , I didn’t realise it was for my current award , I realised it was serious when I also received a face to face appointment for my esa which was also not correct assessment of me but no where near as wrong as the pip assessment ,,
I am totally shocked that this woman assessor has blatantly told lies , and on every point she has said I am fine , I told her I suffer incontiince and she has said I told her I have no problem with incontinace ,,
Mixing with people I told her I cannot face people without getting seriously anxious and being physically sick , I was sick on the floor in her office but she has said in her report I was well and no signs of any anxiety,,, now every question I told her she has put the opposite of what I said and she has added total down right lies to it ,,,
So in my situation I am now going through hell ,,, the words I want to use are not allowed to be put here, I am totally disgusted and shocked ,,

So from here I am going to write the pip a letter and explain what happened ,, they of course are going to take no notice of it and I will then have to have mandatory reconsideration which I doubt I will win as her report is so different to what I have said ,, I tried to hand her a letter from my dr which she refused to accept and told me she had read it already ??
It’s a total scandal that I am quite unsure what the hell is real anymore ,

Please explain what you think are my options here ,, to make a new claim?? But what happens if I do that and get the assessment again and it’s the same woman who writes what she likes not what you tell her??

I really need some advice , I asked the dr for my medical records which go back 25 years odd of my mental problems ,, I was pretty much living peacefully with my wife looking after me , but now it seems I am in a world of punishment ,, it’s terrible and I am now back on medication because of these assessors and their lies ,, it’s made me worse and I don’t have anywhere to turn ,,
Really stuck and going back on pills Is just what I didn’t need right now
I am totally unsure now what to do ,, doesn’t seem these people care ,, what I am entitled to according to the assesser is nothing
Please when you have time explain what you mean , I want to fight this but I find it really difficult to go out in public places and now will have to face a court to tell them all my problems ,, ohh my

Gordon wrote: alesypalsy

I understand your dilemma but I can't tell you what to do, the view only view I have of your claim is what you post in the forum, I have no idea of the merits of your original claim versus your starting a new one, all I can do is make you aware of your options.

If you go with an appeal then the panel can only consider your conditions as they were when the Decision was made, if your health has deteriorated since then it is not something that they can look at (see below). Current wait times for a hearing are around nine months and getting longer.

You can make a new claim for PIP immediately, there is no waiting time. This would be a completely new claim, new PIP2 and almost certainly another F2F, if you make a complaint about the current report then this would be reasonable Good Cause for asking for a different assessor.

A change in your conditions - The PIP legislation requires a change in your limitations to have existed for at least three months and to be reasonably present for a further nine months, you may be asked to explain when your problems increased. Also, the change has to be relevant to the PIP Descriptors, you can get worse and still not receive an award if the problems don't map to the criteria.

You can do both but a new claim will create a new Decision which will supersede any award by a Tribunal even if the appeal happens after the new Decision is made.

Gordon

Gordon thank you for taking the time to reply to me,, I understand what you are saying,,

I am trying to understand my options ,, and kind of understand a new claim,, but my problem dilemma is weather you believe it or not has completely lied I tell you on the form, it is not a case of my condition,, there has been no change except for the worse, the person that carried out the assesment has even made comments regards to the state of me in the assessment,, which are that accoriding to her I was well kempt and reported no problem on a number of factors that I had already put I on the form I have trouble with,, its a total farce so I can understand they are getting away with this,,

I am not looking for being told what to do I am after my options, I am currently writing a letter to the desicion maker and am now thinking I am probably wasting my time, I guess me explaining the assessor is incorrect as to what I told her and also not mentioning that I was soaking wet and vomited on the floor ,, that these are part of my problem yet she has not mentioned these and says I have told her I have no problems with any of this?? so I am lost ,, please could you explain if I need to put in the letter to decision maker the complete facts missing from the form I filled in before the assment? or do I need to explain that the assorts is wrong and correct the information ? please advise what I should be pointing out to the decision maker / same MC which it will obviously the way it is going,, I just need to know what parts I need to focus on in this letter

I am complaining about the assessor as I do not think this person should be in the job,, they are totally out of order

Just to add a decision has not yet been made,
I had the F2F last Tuesday and asked for a copy of the report which arrived today,, yet upon reading the report it is totally inaccurate ,, so I need to know what area do I focus on to write to the decision maker before they make a decision ,, although I feel it is going to be total waste of time as according to the repot I have told the assessor that I am fine and can prob run the olympics according to her fabricated report,

I can tell you that I have used the point scorer on this site and was well over 28 odd points,, she has scored me 0
Nothing has changed in my condition since my last assessment for PIP in fact things are worse in some areas , my last assessment I scored 11 points
please advise what area I need to be explaining to the decision maker before they make desion,, I have also asked for my medical history from the DR so I can send that along also