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13 years 3 weeks ago #89784 by Carolyn Amey
Incontinence DLA changes is PiP already here? was created by Carolyn Amey
Has anyone noticed recent changes to the new DLA forms in line with PIP?
I have Crohn’s disease, third bowel resection due any time.
I got DLA renewal forms and I notice a change in needing someone with you when you are out.
It no longer covers
- because of fear or anxiety over finding toilets-.
This point was won in case law a few years ago regarding bowel incontinence but now it seams to have been thrown out of DLA and is also thrown out of PiP.
So are certain parts of PiP already in use in DLA?
Did I read it right? Is the hard won case of anxiety over losing your human dignity through bowel incontinence in public no longer included in needing someone with you when you out? Even if you suffer bowel incontinence almost daily?
Anyone know the law on bowel incontinence? My blood pressure is through the roof trying plough through miles of Dave’s missives let alone the legal volumes.
I also have emphysema and arthritis and I often need help getting to toilets in time, as I only walk slowly.
I can’t find a definition of what slow walking is except it’s often too slow for me.
I have Crohn’s disease, third bowel resection due any time.
I got DLA renewal forms and I notice a change in needing someone with you when you are out.
It no longer covers
- because of fear or anxiety over finding toilets-.
This point was won in case law a few years ago regarding bowel incontinence but now it seams to have been thrown out of DLA and is also thrown out of PiP.
So are certain parts of PiP already in use in DLA?
Did I read it right? Is the hard won case of anxiety over losing your human dignity through bowel incontinence in public no longer included in needing someone with you when you out? Even if you suffer bowel incontinence almost daily?
Anyone know the law on bowel incontinence? My blood pressure is through the roof trying plough through miles of Dave’s missives let alone the legal volumes.
I also have emphysema and arthritis and I often need help getting to toilets in time, as I only walk slowly.
I can’t find a definition of what slow walking is except it’s often too slow for me.

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13 years 3 weeks ago #89787 by slugsta
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Replied by slugsta on topic Re:Incontinence DLA changes is PiP already here?
I am not aware of any recent change to the DLA forms.
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13 years 3 weeks ago #89791 by Gordon
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Replied by Gordon on topic Re:Incontinence DLA changes is PiP already here?
LT
I believe the latest DLA forms are dated October 2011, and were amended to reflect changes in the way that claimants with sensory impairments needed to be handled.
The PIP criteria have not been agreed, and even if they were, PIP and DLA are different benefits, and as such, the criteria for PIP could not be applied to DLA.
I can't comment on the specific case law you refer to, but a list of current DLA case law is available on the following link
www.disabilityrightsuk.org/dlalaw.htm#Incontinence
You should also have a look at our DLA Claim guides
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/dla/#dlaclaims
Gordon
I believe the latest DLA forms are dated October 2011, and were amended to reflect changes in the way that claimants with sensory impairments needed to be handled.
The PIP criteria have not been agreed, and even if they were, PIP and DLA are different benefits, and as such, the criteria for PIP could not be applied to DLA.
I can't comment on the specific case law you refer to, but a list of current DLA case law is available on the following link
www.disabilityrightsuk.org/dlalaw.htm#Incontinence
You should also have a look at our DLA Claim guides
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/help-for-claimants/dla/#dlaclaims
Gordon
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13 years 3 weeks ago #89807 by Carolyn Amey
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Thank you for that link Gordon, it includes the case I mentioned
CDLA/217/2009
I know DLA and PIP are different and maybe I have looked at too much stuff but its not in PIP and I wonder if the odd new reg is sneeking into DLA already.
Also wonder if new awards will be up for the work capacity test from April or left for the length of the award.
Its just too much stress on people and so very little information and far too much scare mongering.
CDLA/217/2009
I know DLA and PIP are different and maybe I have looked at too much stuff but its not in PIP and I wonder if the odd new reg is sneeking into DLA already.
Also wonder if new awards will be up for the work capacity test from April or left for the length of the award.
Its just too much stress on people and so very little information and far too much scare mongering.
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13 years 3 weeks ago #89809 by slugsta
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Replied by slugsta on topic Re:Incontinence DLA changes is PiP already here?
Now I am confused - there is no WCA for DLA or PIP (as they are not 'out of work' benefits)
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13 years 3 weeks ago #89845 by Jim Allison
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Replied by Jim Allison on topic Re:Incontinence DLA changes is PiP already here?
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Trimestris wrote:
Current claimants of DLA will not start to be reassessed for PIP until sometime in 2013. Assessing DLA claimants of working age, i.e. those 16-64 years of will take from 2013 to 2016.
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Trimestris wrote:
Thank you for that link Gordon, it includes the case I mentioned
CDLA/217/2009
I know DLA and PIP are different and maybe I have looked at too much stuff but its not in PIP and I wonder if the odd new reg is sneeking into DLA already.
Also wonder if new awards will be up for the work capacity test from April or left for the length of the award.
Its just too much stress on people and so very little information and far too much scare mongering.
Current claimants of DLA will not start to be reassessed for PIP until sometime in 2013. Assessing DLA claimants of working age, i.e. those 16-64 years of will take from 2013 to 2016.
See this Thread in Spotlights
PLEASE READ THE SPOTLIGHTS AREA OF THE FORUM REGULARLY, OTHERWISE YOU MAY MISS OUT ON IMPORTANT INFORMATION. Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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