The DWP is to begin continuous surveillance of the bank accounts of all pension credit, universal credit and employment and support allowance claimants using powers under a bill currently going through Parliament.  The department have said that they intend to use their new power to force any third party to pass on data to them more widely in the future.

The power to compel third parties into providing any data that the DWP wants in order to search for fraud and error is being conferred in last minute amendments slipped into the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill, which has now passed its third reading in the Commons and moved to the Lords.

Initially the DWP say that they will use their powers to oblige the UK’s top 15 banks to monitor the accounts of all means-tested benefits claimants and report every time an account goes over the  capital limit or is used abroad for more than four weeks.

Because every DWP payment into a bank account has an identifying code attached to it, all banks know exactly which of their customers is on benefits and which benefits they receive.

Setting up software to automatically send details to the DWP of every claimant account that goes over the capital limit or is used abroad for more than four weeks will be very straightforward for banks.

The DWP say that each identified claim will be investigated in the normal way and that penalties will not be automatically imposed.

At the moment, almost 9 million claimants would be caught in the surveillance net, including:

  • 5.8 million universal credit claimants
  • 1.6 million employment and support allowance claimants
  • 1.4 million pension credit claimants

Any bank failing to collect and pass on data to the DWP will be subject to heavy fines.

 The new system will begin to be rolled out in 2025, though all banks may not be fully involved before 2030.

The DWP estimates that it will cost around £30 million a year for them to investigate potential fraud identified by the new system, but that they will save £500 million a year through reduced fraud and error.  

They also estimate that over the first ten years, the new powers will result in 74,000 prosecution cases and 2,500 custodial sentences.  

There is no doubt that the DWP intend to use these new powers much more widely.  The impact assessment for the new powers says that:

“The power is not limited to a specific type of data or type of institution/Third-Party to allow us to fight new fraud and error issues as they emerge and engage with new institutions as efficient opportunities become available to us.”

Later, the same document says: 

“This measure is drafted broadly . . .  to enable DWP to apply this measure to non-financial organisations in future if it is deemed appropriate and proportionate”

The new surveillance powers for the DWP appear to enjoy cross party support. Only 51 MPs voted against the amendment, with 30 of those being SNP and just 7 each from Labour and the Lib Dems.

Anyone who imagines that the DWP will use such sweeping powers reasonably and proportionately probably hasn’t ever claimed benefits.

And they probably also don’t remember the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, which was brought in to combat terrorism and organised crime and ended up being used to spy on dog walkers, pigeon feeders and people putting out their wheelie bins too early.

Capital and abroad fraud account for less than 15% of benefits fraud and error. The DWP will want to delve into many other aspects of claimants lives in order to identify the other 85%.  This is, beyond doubt, the thin end of a very thick wedge.

You can download a copy of the amendments to the Data Protection and Digital information Bill here.  The Power To Require Information For Social Security Purposes section begins on page 98.

You can read the impact assessment for the DWP surveillance powers here.

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    · 1 years ago
    No doubt this bill will go through, but may be watered down at parliament. Both tories and Starmer don't like the poor working class people dependent on benefits. Who says they wont still secretly and sneakily go ahead and monitor everyone's accounts without anyone of us knowing they're doing this. This is all very unsettling.

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    · 1 years ago
    Hi. This says it’s only going to be for means tested but are they going to have to check everyone (means tested or not) for using it abroad? Thanks
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    · 1 years ago
    My main concern is we all know dwp don't do things fairly, look what happened to the post office employees. Lot of people all innocent, committed suicide rather than let the government hound them. I feel this will happen again especially when claiments are innocent  with serious health conditions, feeling unwell and  disabled who don't want to face the long endless interigation.  I strongly feel alot of people will commit suicide rather than face the  ordeal of having  dwp  interigate them.
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      · 1 years ago
      @pp Totaly agree since this lot came in to power they have gone crazy trying to criminalize the poor disabled and elderly .next thing is tax your pension . they will know every penny you spend why didn't labour go against this it must be against your civil rights. also your partners account too. Disgracefull, 
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    · 1 years ago
    im retired what happens here all i get is my gov pension

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      · 1 years ago
      @tom reid As long as you aren't claiming it whilst living overseas you are fine
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    · 1 years ago
    Hi, with regard to ESA, does the clause 24 snoop only apply to the head claimant?
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      · 1 years ago
      @Jeff It applies to the account that benefits are paid into, a partner's details can be seen if it is a joint account 
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    · 1 years ago
    Hi. This article says this will start in 2025 but i saw a newspaper article today saying 2024. Is this correct?
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      · 1 years ago
      @ABC I've seen that as well 
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      · 1 years ago
      @pp Thankyou pp its a vety unsettled time for us aĺl. Wishing everyone the best in keeping their anxiety levels down .
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      · 1 years ago
      @Dottie Hi Dottie,
      As far as I know at the moment they're only contacting claiments who they have their suspicions on. But according to B&W here, it will be rolled out in 2025 when the bill becomes law in parliament. We're all in the same position, feeling anxious as don't fully know what's happening.
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      · 1 years ago
      @ABC Hi Abc im hopeing someone may be able to clarify this, i hope it never comes to power, but i would feel easier if i knew what year this will start. So anyone who can put our anxiety down a little please come on and help. Much app. 
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    · 1 years ago

    @Bella Hi Bella, Pip is not means tested, so no capital limit.
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    · 1 years ago
    @A Ooer, does your gran have too much money then?
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      · 1 years ago
      @rookie The DWP have always conducted random compliance checks. 
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    · 1 years ago
    It has started, my gran has received a letter and been called about it this week. They have requested bank statements. 
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    · 1 years ago
    Who can argue with you, Karen Keita? What is so sad in your brother in law's case is there was not time for him to fight any wrong or premature actions taken by the authorities. Pension providers have to notify hmrc/dwp of payouts, not sure about banks at current time, though. 

    Understandable if you haven't the heart for this, but you might be able to get CAB or other help to challenge dwp decisions retrospectively if the savings dropped below the limit again (he would have been allowed up to £6000 until benefits were subject to reduction, but up to £16000 before his benefits were stopped, anyway) and question bank's potential privacy violation.  Best wishes.
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    · 1 years ago
    What a terrible state this has come to.
    My brother in law, just 65 had a bad back last January, he was working nights never been out of work but they changed the night shift hours so he could no longer get there. Due to the pain in his back he thought he'd take the option to leave. He never signed on benefits as he gave up the job in their eyes. May last year he was diagnosed stage 4 palative care secondary cancer of the vertebrae can't find Primary site. I claimed benefits for him, he'd been living off his life savings and now had nothing left. July after a fight with evidence confirming he has less than 12 months to live he received money July 23rd. Due to the cancer speeding up and approaching 65 we looked into his pensions.  We got one that was for £8,000 he had to pay £2,000 in tax before he got it. £6,000 went into the bank but he'd already got by then this was December £700 in his account. Taking him over the £6,000 your allowed in the bank. Within ONE HOUR his money was stopped. 
    We were informed after I contacted the bank that its already policy to alert benefits . This was HSBC BANK CANNOCK STAFFORDSHIRE.  He paid for his cremation costing another £2,000 he's had the minimalist possible. So it took him under the allowance.  But benefits wouldn't accept he'd paid for his own cremation. Even with proof. As it is he's now had another pension too of £8,000 so couldn't be on benefits. This is what happens when you work all your life....
    His state pension they've said if he's alive he can have next 66th birthday if not it dies with him. He's divorced. 

    You can no longer save yourself for a burial and have savings to pay your gas and electricity or replace any item you have to choose which your doing and remember he has the minimal cremation. No one attending, no service, no viewing nothing only ashes sent to his son. 

    This is what this Country and Government has come too. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Karen Keita You can thank all the idiots in this country who vote these monster Tories in. Quite frankly I have had enough of this god forsaken shit hole of a country. 
      You are better off in prison than poor in the UK. Says it all. Better protected in jail than the millions of poor people slogging for a rich private landlord. 
      Who can blame the hundreds of thousands that leave the UK every year? My cousin went to live in New Zealand ten years ago. She never looked back and to put it in her words "She's not coming back to that depressing dump for anything". 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Karen Keita You should challenge this, speak to a welfare rights adviser at your local council if you need help. The DWP rules allow you to pay for a pre paid funeral plan and it should not count as deprivation of capital.
      The people who work for DWP often don't understand the complex rules, which is why you should challenge their decision to stop your BILs benefits.
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    · 1 years ago
    Interesting, every article on the internet, seemed to be speculating to whats going on, many reporting its already started or about to start very soon.  This article states exactly what they looking for and its not until 2025.
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      · 1 years ago
      @CC That's right, CC, and not even intended to be fully rolled out until 2030. We all know how delayed these measures usually are #universal credit. So time to sign the petitions, raise the profile and force the debates/amendments. The bill is ridiculously long, far and wide reaching, and the government tried to sneak in the surveillance clauses at the end, hoping they would escape scrutiny.
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    · 1 years ago
    Just putting this here incase people haven't seen it yet https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/650940
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    · 1 years ago
    What can go wrong??
    Look at how effective the Post Office was, determining fraud.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Terry ThecDWP we’re going to use the same horizon system. Thank good ness they didn’t !
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    · 1 years ago
    I AM SELLING ITEMS I DON'T NEED/WEAR ANYMORE ON EBAY.  IS THAT ALLOWED?  HOW MUCH AM I ALLOWED TO SELL?
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      · 1 years ago
      @MARTINE It two fold. You can sell 30 items on vinted. But I've also read that if it's your own items it's classed as recycling then it's not counted. Vinted has just put a new policy in place and in the small print confirms they have to notify benefits.  EBay are much stricter. Its a complete nightmare. People are to be kept on poverty line and not allowed to help themselves even to pay for heating. 
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    · 1 years ago
    I think they're going to look how people on benefits are spending their money and try and cut what they hand out that way. 
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    · 1 years ago
    When this comes in, hopefully Labour will leave it on statute. Wait until the next election and announce, they are going to get rid of it and see if the Tories support. If no they will be toast
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      · 1 years ago
      @Karen Keita aggree didnt hear them say much about this ,thought they were for the poor
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      · 1 years ago
      @Andy Exactly Labour are no longer the people's protection not poorer section anyway. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Its only me There was majority Labour support for the bill when it passed through the HOC. Don't expect Labour to change or get rid of anything.
      Rachel Reeves has said Labour are going to be tougher on benefits than the Tories have been. She was saying just last week that Labour will be the party for working people, not welfare.
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    · 1 years ago
    Let's be very clear, this is the thin end of a very large wedge, if this all goes through Parliament,  how long will it be before HMRC seek powers 'just to ensure everyone is paying the correct amount of tax' I guarantee that in a couple of years time, the state will be monitoring every bank account in the land, BEWARE!
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      · 1 years ago
      @Stevo HMRC already have these powers and more. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @mrfibro Never they are an exception to the rule as always.
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      · 1 years ago
      @Stevo They already ARE. My brother in law in palative care only been on benefits July had in stopped within one hour of £6,000 pension going into his bank account due to him dying so he's got it earlier. He had £600 already in the account. HSBC told us they have to by law tell benefits immediately.  
      So within ONE HOUR all benefits were stopped. He's paid for his cremation out of it. Please read my post above. 
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      · 1 years ago
      @Stevo Stevo,

      Just wondering if HMRC  will be monitoring the corrupt MP's and corporate giants accounts too.  And not to forget the dodgy tax evader, evading paying taxes in the tunes of multiple billions per year.

      The Etonians are in support of tax evaders on this scale, coz they too evade, it's all corruption, and the empty tax koffers have to be filled by the again, poor man/ woman & them & those on welfare.

      Good luck to all, we're going to need it.
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      · 1 years ago
      @keeping it real The Government and House of Lords won't care what left leaning papers report. No amount of noise in the media will stop this bill passing into law. It might have some amendments but it will pass, just like UC did, despite numerous concerns being raised.
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