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I am disabled and this 4 point rule will make me homeless. At this point, my life will be no longer worth living.

When pip was formed and passed into law they also done the maths of how much people need to live on by law. And what was passed would of been the bare minimum.

And now they are burning that legislation of how much you need to live on, you cant live on less of that calculated amount was then or now, bills rates rent weekly cost of living ect ect.

What on earth is number 10 and 11 and kendle thinking.

Reeves is looking to pitch poor parents against disabled claimants. She claims there is no money hence needing to rob pensioners and the disabled. Where else would the money for poor parents come from? Meanwhile you have the likes of the Net Zero minister taking flights here there and everywhere and no doubt getting them paid for. They’re all corrupt. The lot of them. It’s was bad enough with the snouts in the trough tories. 

This is literally a matter of Life and Death.

I’m not suggesting for second that we stop protesting on Labour welfare reforms
But looking at the bigger picture how many of you think there will be a u turn on this policy before its through and the plans will be scrapped?
My partner Tim thinks there is u turn going to happen on it. Last night he did bit of research on previous governments doing u turns on a policy and looks from history that David Cameron government did the least u turns and he did 1 on the pasty tax and scrapped it the day before it became law. He scrapped it after wide criticism from the bakers and public.
In comparison Labour Kier Stammer has done the most u turns since he took over leadership after Corbyn.
The biggest u turn was done by the Tories on the poll tax that was introduced and became law by Thatcher and immediately was scrapped by the Tories again when she was forced out of Downing St.

Forget party politics for a minute but most MPs remember who actually put them there and voted for them and the very same people can quickly take that seat off them again at the next election.
How many Labour MPs are going to be able to look at their constituents in the eye at the next election and confirm they completely ignored their last manifesto and they actually voted in favour to make their own constituents lot poorer and they want the very same people to now forget that and vote for them again.
Remember Labour manifesto last year promised to end poverty and end homelessness. So Liz Kendall and Kier Stammer and Rachel Reeves answer to this problem is to throw over a million more people at the problem they promised to end.
Richard Burgon Labour MP petition against welfare reform said he wants at least 50000 signatures to his petition to present it in parliament at the vote, he is an MP and he will have idea how many signatures he needs. Today the signature total stands above the 50000 mark.
The original plan was MPs would vote in early May now that vote has been delayed till June, why? If Labour leaders thought the vote amongst MPs was going to get through easily, then why not vote for it in May after all Labour has got the majority seats? Tim my partner thinks Kier Stammer and Rachel Reeves now realise they might lose that vote in parliament. There is no guarantee amongst other patys that they would vote for it. Assumption amongst the public the Tory MPs would probably vote for it, but the fact is who knows if they would vote for it? Rishi Sunak went into the election last year promising to make large cuts to the welfare thinking it be popular with voters and he lost the election. Think Kier Stammer came up with this plan to try and jump into bed with Tory newspapers Mail Telegraph Express but what he didn’t think the Tory press will stay faithful to the Torys okay those newspapers might flirt a bit with Reform, but the thought of jumping into ned with Labour repulses them. The likes of the Mail Telegraph Express are counting the days to the next election and dreaming of Labour falling flat.
All the press be it Labour or Tory are full of the infighting in Labour over the plans. Labour has agreed their whips are struggling to get Labour MPs to agree to it, so Labour has even agreed to let its MPs to abstain from the vote.
Tim read that loads of Labour MPs in the red wall areas are now fearing they will be toast at the next election if their constituents start to lose their Pips.
Several big name charities and NHS have warned the government against these disability cuts.
Also read Ed Davey of Lib Dems his son is disabled and these cuts could harm him, so are the Lib Dems Mps likely to vote for something that could effect their own leader?

So will this affect if it’s passed all new claims and reviews when due and are ongoing claims not affected until reviews are due please can someone explain thanks

Starmer, Reeves and Kendall will rely on the Tories to vote it through but a rebellion will damage the government. Again this will need two pieces of legislation, a money bill to change/cut and primary legislation to change eligibility. 

I have written to my labour mp this morning, as follows:

Labour MPS need to grow a back bone abstaining from voting against benefit cuts not good enough. They need to send a clear message to starmer and Liz Kendall that they won't back the cuts by voting a clear NO. Listen to their conscience.

The mp’s not voting or being allowed to abstain are the same as voting for the cuts. They need to be clear either for or against. If everyone who is disabled doesn’t vote for Labour in the May election then they might see sense. 

We have to try and delay the introduction of the bill until after the OBR's impact forecast in Autumn. It's nonsense to have a vote before the effects are known (can it be legal, without a proper consultation either?), and we also need to be able to challenge the OBR's forecast if it doesn't comprehend the issues. 

Let's hope the rebellion gets much bigger to the extent that it makes this all go away.

Love how the pm has lauded the late pope:

Good. I hope it gets much worse. 

This news is very encouraging. The more labour MP's who are made aware of the dire consequences of these cruel benefit cuts to the vulnerable in our country, the more hope we have of getting results. We must continue to put pressure on the government any way we can. Hopefully this is the start of a breakthrough we have been waiting for. 

I am following a petition against the pip 4 point rule proposal it's  a 40 plus thousand signatures against last time I saw it but hoped it would be more as that's a lot I know people are still signing but hope more will too . It was a change. Org petition .

Even if their was a u turn and all this never got threw still a chance yet then they would try again another way possibly keeping the universal credit wca and making that harder to pass and limiting health conditions on that in other words a severe disability group