Lat month, we published a poll asking readers “Would Labour be better than the Conservatives for disabled claimants?” 

We asked the question because Labour almost completely ignored the issue of benefits in their manifesto.  It left many claimants wondering whether this was because Labour were largely sympathetic but don’t want to provide a target for the right-wing press or whether it is because they have nothing positive to say to claimants.

In the absence of hard evidence, we thought it important to give people a chance to share how they were interpreting the silence.

Almost 2,500 people took part in the poll. The results were:

1 Labour will be supportive of disabled claimants.  20%

2 Labour will be less harsh than the Conservatives.  39%

3 Labour will be as harsh as the Conservatives.  34%

4 Labour will be harsher than the Conservatives.  7%

So, overall 59% of readers think that Labour will be better than the Conservatives and 41% think they will be just as harsh or even harsher.

It isn’t a overwhelming vote of confidence in Labour, but clearly the majority of respondents think that a Labour government would be an improvement.

Many hundreds of readers left comments explaining their approach to the coming election.  Some even managed some optimism:

“… Vote tactically, wherever you are (see stopthetories.vote) and we could see the Liberal Democrats become the official opposition to Labour. Just imagine how much Ed Davey would highlight the problems facing the disabled and carers.”
Chantelle

“Labour will spend on Public services that matter to disabled people, including the nhs, so although they haven’t said much on benefits I believe there will be positive changes to come under a Labour government, including disability benefits.”
Anne

Lots of commentors said they would be voting Labour but with very little hope or optimism:

“We know for DEFINITE that the Tories will try to abolish PIP payments, and make ESA far harder to qualify for. We do NOT know what Labour will do. Therefore, if Labour get into power there is a chance that things will NOT be as bad as if the Tories remain in power. Consequently, it is VITAL to vote out the Tories! Sadly, Labour is our only hope.”
Faith

“labour wont be any worse than the torys i will vote labour and hope for the best”
Gareth

For others, Labour’s silence on most benefits issues was cause for real alarm:

“If there is minimal information (though comments by various shadow ministers do seem somewhat worryingly indicative) then it is almost certainly because  "Labour" intends to continue with the general policy of the Tory administration ... or inflict worse .... but would rather not advertise that oppressive similarity till after the election.“
Timewarp

“No news is not always good news.  I feel labour is not commenting much on any benefits issues as they are likely to stick with at least a number of measures that conservatives have already started, as in the short term at least it will lead to savings.”
Jennet00  

And for some, there seemed no hope from any party:

“… sorry but yes I think Labour can be worse or at least as bad, that is not to let the Tories off in any shape or form, but sadly I have no faith in any political party to deliver absolutely anything. We are voiceless at the ballotbox our vote counts for nothing …”
Elizabeth

You can read hundreds more comments from claimants here.

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    · 4 months ago
    PIP-Benefit claimants are only receiving their entitlement to benefit that has been decided by point scoring and independent review processes whilst also taking in account healthcare professional recommendations. The increase in benefit payments that the government has highlighted is their own making as benefits are rising every year with inflation increases that the government quite rightly have to make because it is the government’s own fault by NOT keeping a lid on their own inflation policies, and as usual it’s the claimants who are in receipt of (PIP) that are now taking the blame for the government’s own mishandling of the economy.






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    · 4 months ago
    give reform a chance
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      · 4 months ago
      @wibblum Reform are nowhere near power at the moment; they are a new party and we sure do need some new ideas! They have time to refine their policies. We DO need a smaller State  but still a compassionate one with equality of opportunity for all. A good government should empower its citizens and not just rob them blind and disenfranchise the less able.  Labour have plenty of ideas, some good, some bad but there’s no money for them! The Tories  were a disaster and squandered their years in power. I don’t see much difference between the two parties, actually and await the next developments with interest and not a little trepidation. One thing’s for sure, the economic outlook MUST improve otherwise there will be NO MONEY for anything! Cutting the quangos. talking heads and corruption. not to mention the (not so)civil and public services (vast rise in numbers  and wage bill for no obvious improvement in services) would be a start too. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Stuart Stuart, CORRECT!
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      · 4 months ago
      @Vicky Let's not forget also that Farage and Reform want to do away with the NHS as it is and replace it with an insurance based system too. How people can look at Reform and think it's the best option to cast a vote for is beyond me really. I in no way understand what those peppe are thinking. The systems we currently have aren't perfect but by God I'm very grateful and thankful for them. Once their gone people will definitely regret it and regret that decision. Forage is just a grifter and Reform are a party of what appear to be fringe lunatics and the odd racist and bigot too. I really hope that they don't end up with many seats in this parliament and have any kind or type of influence. The Tories fear of reform has made them lutch even further to the right to the right and let's be honest Labour are nothing like they were founded for in the early 1900s. Keith Hardy would be turning in his grave at what they've become. They too have moved to the right all be it centre right. Thankfully I'm in Scotland and actually have a party of the left/centre left to vote for in the SNP. PIP has been devolved to the Scottish government and rebrabded as Adult Disability Payments (I'm being transfered over to ADP from PIP in October. The SNP (Scottish govt) have said they want to do a fairer claimant based approach to assessments rather than the draconian assessments that currently happen. Plus the fact that the Tories and UK Govt wanna replace PIP money with a voucher scheme is ridiculous to me. Thank god the Scottish Govt now control my PIP (ADP) and will continue to make cash payments. It always seems to be the people on benefits and disabled who pay the price and experience austerity and cuts, every time! Benefit fraud is said to be around £500m a year whereas tax evasion and avoidance is estimated to be over £120 BILLION a year! Yet they focus all their attention and £ on benefits and totally ignored the £120 bn that's there in tax evasion and avoidance. That kinda says it all to me really. Why on earth wouldn't you go after that £120bn? Just think what that could fund and do for the country. How much could that £120bn help improve the NHS, Social care, housing and an array of other things too. I have no faith in Labour at all in all honesty. Labour in Scotland and Westminster adopt a policy called the Bain Principle (look it up) it basically means that Labour will vote against ANY AND EVERY idea and policy put forward by the SNP. That meant that Labour in Scotland voted against free school meals for every primary school child, they voted against free prescriptions for everyone and also voted against the Scottish Child Payment, that's a benefit only available here in Scotland that pays £25 a week for each child in a family on benefits to help lift children out pf poverty. It's helped 100k children so far. Yet Labour voted against it and voted against raising the payment from £20 to £25 at the last Scottish budget. They have totally lost their way. They even day they'd reverse some SNP policies such as free uni tuition for all, free prescriptions and free public transport for everyone under age 22. What is their purpose? Where are their principles? The bain principle was on display in Westminster not long ago when the SNP wanted to hold the debate and vote on a ceasefire in Gaza. Meir Starnwr cajoled the Speaker into changing the debate in favour of what Labour wanted so as they could control the debate and vote, so as Labour MPs could vote for it as if the SNP had held the vote as planned Labour MPs would have to abstain or vite against due to Bain Principle. That's why it caused an uproar in the commons and was on the news etc. I've lost count of how intense Keir Starmer has u-turned on policies he has put forward, sometimes he has u-turned within hours of making an announcement. It's utterly ridiculous. Amd this mantra of 'CHANGE' its nothing nore than an empty soundbite in reality. I'm yet to fully understand WHAT CHANGE? They never seem to say, just repeat ad nauseum the change mantra. Vote for us because we're not the Tories, that's all it seems to amount to. I had a Labour canvaser at ny door on Saturday and she told me 4 lies and I called her out on it. She said vite for Labour mp cos he will help to alleviate NHS waiting times, a lie, bcos NHS is devolved and controlled by MSPs in Homyrood nothing an MP at Westminster can do. Lie 2, better public transport at cheaper prices, again devolved bathing an MP at Westminster can do about that. 3rd lie, improve education and the attainment gap, again devolved to Holyrood nothing an MP at WM can do to tackle that and then her 4th lie was that with GB Energy being set up it'd produce cheaper electricity and help cut my bills as a result. GB Energy is a PFI body, its an investment infrastructure company that'll supply funding to Energy producers it won't actually produce any energy itself. I called her out on all the lies amd her reply was....'I don't think our policy of Change is something that you clearly want and aren't willing to vote for'. Why would I vote for someone who is basing their campaign on 4 lies in order ti try win a seat. Telling lies to people who may not know what issues are devolved to Holyrood and are reserved to Westminster. If you have to lie to potential voters then you obviously have no morals at all and simply cannot be trusted on any matter whatsoever. Again thankfully I'm Scottish and I really hope that in time, and sooner rather than later, Scotland can vote for our independence because the only people best placed to protect things here are the people here. Labour policies are designed to appeal to English voters, Scotland is an afterthought. Here to rape of our natural rescources and nothin more. Norway and Scotland found oil and gas at the same time and Norway has a sovereign wealth fund of over $1 TRILLION and Scotland has a share of £2.7 TRILLION UK national debt. How is that even possible? Scotland has nore oil and Gas than the United Arab Emirates and just look at the difference between the 2. Labour in the 1970s hid the wealth from Scottish oil and gas and downplayed it. All the £ garnered from it went south and built the M25 and Canary Wharf and London and te South East infrastructure whilst Scotlsnd languished in poverty with the UKs 10 poorest areas all in Scotland. That was until the SNP gained control of the Scottish Govt. Now all 10 poorest areas are in England. Labour are charlatans, no better than the Tories are really. Their 2 cheeks of the sake arse, 2 sides of the same coin. Starmer stands for nothing, they even want nore privatisation of the NHS too and have ope lying said so whenever Wes streeting is interviewed and asked about it. People really need to wake up and actually look at what they're offering but in no way at all is Reform or the grifter that is Farage the answer TO ANY QUESTION EVER!

      Sorry for the very long rant btw. But I hope that you actually did read it and get where I'm coming from. Thanks. And I hope you cast a vote for who you think will do best for you and your local area. Good luck! And thanks for reading this, of you did. 😉
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      · 4 months ago
      @johnozz Give Reform a chance... to make the lives of the poor and the vulnerable even more miserable than under the tories? No thanks. This is what Farage thinks of anyone who depends on the state for their survival:
      “Welfarism, I’m afraid, is making millions of people lazy. ‘I’m too fat, I’m too stupid, I’m too lazy, I don’t want to get out of bed in the morning. I smoke drugs, give me money’ … That’s what we’re saying. ‘I don’t need to work, the state will provide for me’ … We cannot afford it.”
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      · 4 months ago
      @johnozz Reform are just as harsh as the tories on benefits and one of their plans is to cut the welfare budgets by billions. 
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    · 4 months ago
    I’m not voting either 
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    · 4 months ago
    I don't have any confidence in a labour government being any different to the cons , I feel they are remaining silent on certain issues as they are in silent agreement with the cons , they are playing a smart game by not being vocal , which keeps the disabled throwing their votes at them and the voters who are negative on welfare claimant's from removing theirs . If they had any true support for the disabled then they would have it known by now , but they think that the disabled are prepared to opt for the lesser of two evils. 
    The DWP has already made it  clear that pip and other reforms will begin in 2028 which is roughly the cycle of one term in government, the warmongers in power have already said they intend to increase arms spending by3% that is roughly what they will be taking off the disabled to start world war.
    I feel labour will remain silent on the Tory changes to the benefits system, the unemployed and disabled are easy targets, they will not stop these so called green papers which already seem like policy , as where was the consultation ? 
    We have good cop bad cop politics two parties one agenda , I feel we will have one term of a useless labour government then the Tories will rubber stamp their inhumane and warmongering policies, I hope I'm wrong.
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    · 4 months ago
    Any government that uses benefit claimant's for political point scoring don't deserve any vote.Benefit clamiants are not the enemy-despite what the Tories and their right wing rags think.
    It's hard to believe that a future labour government could treat benefit claimant's as harsh as the tories have done over the last 14 years-we need clarity from Labour and not silence.

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    · 4 months ago
    I don't think the silence from Labour is because they will be as harsh on disabled benefit claimants.  Being harsh on benefits is probably seen by many as a vote winner not loser.  I think they are being silent because the Tories will attack them on being soft on welfare reform, not harsh.   This is what will be a headline, not that they will be as harsh as the Tories.
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    · 4 months ago
    I decided a while ago that I would vote Lib Dems, not because I think they'll win, but mainly because I don't want the Tories and with the deafening silence from labour on disabilities I just don't think they can be trusted. I did plan to vote Labour but if things do go wrong I don't want the guilt of thinking "well I did vote for them"!!!.
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    · 4 months ago
    it could be that labour's silence on beneifits is so they aren't seen as soft on claiments, anything left of what the torys are proposing would be red meat to the torys, and Sunak wouldn't shut up about it.
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    · 4 months ago
    It's really hard for me to believe it have any hope that Labour will be slightly better or even better than Tories. I don't like labour, Tories, reform and lib Dems at all.

     They all seem to have similar goals politically and they all seem to like the status quo and do not want to progressively make things better for people with health conditions and disabilities. I have autism and depression/anxiety (I'm not using this as an excuse.


    Maybe, I'll have to wait and see what Starmer will do (despite not....trusting him at all)  also yes, my optimism isn't great at all, it hasn't been for 8 years.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Gritz I couldn't agree more. Starmer is red Tory who admires Blairite trickle down economics which is code for allowing the continuing massive wealth inequalities to continue and increase. He will do nothing to upset the speculators of the city of london. In fact he will do everything possible to reassure them that his government will be financially 'responsible' ie will cut benefits and attack public sector wages.
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    · 4 months ago
    Hi I put this in the last thread about PIP numbers but it would seem more appropriate here.  It's up to you (Benefits and Work) to decide whether to republish it here.....

    Hi Benefits and Work please see the email from my local Labour candidate below in response to mine/Scopes email campaign. My first impression was that he sounded kind but concern that the policies could still be brutal...... We shall see 🤞 if they get in they will be kinder than this lot.

    Dear X

    Many thanks for your email.

    I'm well aware how disabled people have borne the brunt of 14 years of Conservative failure on the economy, on welfare and our public services. Under Labour this will change.

    If I have the privilege of being elected to parliament, I intend to be an advocate and ally for disabled people as I have been in my current role as X. I'm proud of having championed disabled people locally with XXX

    A Labour government will ensure the views and voices of disabled people are at the heart of our plans for reform. I'm aware there are numerous problems with PIP, with poor decisions that often get overturned, lengthy delays, and reassessments that leave many disabled people deeply worried and concerned. We will:
    Reform PIP and the wider welfare system to ensure disabled people can live independent and fulfilling lives, backed by proper support to work for those who can.. This will include giving disabled people the confidence to try out a job without the fear of an immediate benefit reassessment if it doesn’t work out. 
    Overhaul Access to Work for disabled people, so they know the types of equipment, adaptations or personal support they could get funding for before they start work – giving them the confidence to take the plunge.
    Develop new local plans for work, health and skills support to get more people with health conditions and disabilities into work, with devolved funding and leadership from Mayors and local areas.
    Offer a youth guarantee that will mean opportunities for training, an apprenticeship or help to find work for all young people, including disabled young people, aged 18- 21 years old, to prevent them becoming excluded from the world of work at a young age.
    Make work pay, reforming Statutory Sick Pay, making flexible work the default and introducing mandatory disability pay gap reporting for large firms.

    I hope this is helpful. I would much appreciate having your support to become your MP and an ally for disabled people in Parliament.

    Regards

    In response to my/Scope campaign email below:
    Dear X

    My name is X and I live in X. I am writing to ask you to put disabled people at the top of your agenda this election.

    There are 16 million disabled people in the UK. That’s 1 in 4 of us. Yet 8 in 10 disabled people think politicians are out of touch with their lives, or simply don’t care. Our voices can’t be ignored during this election.

    Please can you help reform the disability benefits system to stop the repeated Work Capability Assessments for long-term Sick and disabled people. And please can you stop the progress of the green paper to change PIP for vouchers etc. this money is essential for our personal independence.




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