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Try the proposed new PIP test

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We know from comments and emails that a lot of people are confused about how Labour’s proposed new PIP scoring system works.  So we’ve created an online test to allow you to try the scoring system for yourself.

You can try the test as many times as you want either anonymously or, if you prefer, provide you email address and get the results sent to your inbox as well as appearing onscreen.

Under the proposed new test the mobility component remains exactly the same.

However, for the daily living component, whilst you must still score:

  • 8 points for standard rate
  • 12 points for enhanced rate

 at least one of the descriptors you select must score 4 points or more.  

So, if you select 4 descriptors scoring two points each, that will be 8 points but it will not qualify for an award.

But if you select one descriptor scoring 4 points and two descriptors scoring 2 points, that will be 8 points and you will qualify for an award.

The changes, if they ever happen, will not apply before November 2026.

Please bear in mind that we have only just created this form, so please contact us if you spot any glitches.

And, even more importantly, remember this is just a proposal and may never become law.

 You can try the proposed new PIP test here.

You can also:

keep up with what’s changing and when

find out what you can do if you are unhappy about Labour’s plans

follow the latest news about PIP and UC changes.

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    Bert
    · 10 days ago
    The government will save more than 5 billion if alot of people get pip stopped and UC health element
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    Carole
    · 10 days ago
    Thank you for this it is helpful. I have two PIP application to complete for my sons for different problems. It is the mobility element they are going to lose. They can both walk but trying to get one of them out of the house with out his carer is a nightmare He rarely leaves the house but as usual the questions don't really suit his problems. Who is going to conduct all these face to face assessments and when? How long will we be waiting for an appeal? What money is it really going to save. See the letters page of the daily mail today the people who spoil it for the genuine. Best of luck to the genuine
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      Anon
      · 10 days ago
      @Carole He should get mobility, as he would score 12 points if he can only go out with his carer:

      "Cannot follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation aid. (12 points)"
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    wibblum
    · 10 days ago
    While this is a good practice exercise and I do score 4 points on a couple of descriptors, that's only my opinion (oh, and my consultant's), which as we all should know by now counts for nothing in the face of lying assessors and the whims of target-driven Decision Makers. It's nice to have this of course, but please don't start pinning any hopes on it.

    We also don't yet know for certain how or if the descriptors will be changed in future to fit NeuLabour's now transparently despicable 'survival of the useful' agenda (I don't believe Starmer or Kendall's worthless assurances of 'fairness', and I certainly won't take any moral lectures from a man who proudly ponces all his clothes, specs and Taylor Swift tickets from billionaire donors).

    But it's also equally important to remember, as the article says, that all of this is just a proposal and may never become law.
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    Clare
    · 10 days ago
    It was well worth taking the test But while what I think I should score is 19 points with two descriptors of 4 points for daily living DWP think different They have given me only one descriptor of 4 points and 14 points Which while I would still get PIP Does show This is a guide but the assessor could think differently I had my PIP review result letter at the end of Feb this year So was a good comparison Between my own predicted points and reality
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    A
    · 10 days ago
    The entire purpose of pip is to help with extra costs.

    A person with cerebral palsy who qualifies as of right now needing aids too cook, eat, wash themselves, dressing and using a toilet no longer will because none of these are a 4.

    Actually disgraceful. 
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    Richard G
    · 10 days ago
    After 15 years of navigating my rheumatoid arthritis through the benefits system it seems to me that conditions like RA which fluctuate in intensity on a daily basis could be wilfully misinterpreted by DWP.   I believe we are supposed to be assessed based on our functionality on a “bad day”.  In practise we are at the whim of the DWP assessor.   I can just imagine with the current desire to restrict eligibility people with such conditions will be easy prey 
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    Dexterbunny
    · 10 days ago
    Thanks for putting the time into this. Tasks like this take time 
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    Keith
    · 10 days ago
    Ok, can someone please help me by answering my question?

    I am in the support group for NS-ESA, under mobility, but I do also meet the criteria to be in the support group for regulation 35, Risk.

    I do not score 4 points for any one of the daily living activities on this new PIP test.

    If they scrap the WCA, and replace it with this new PIP test, does this mean, that, I would no longer be eligible to be in the LCWRA support group for NS-ESA?

    (And is that because I have to score 4 points on one of the new PIP test individual daily living decriptors, as well as be eligible under mobility?)

    Please tell me thats not true.  

    (I have a very serious and rare disease rarely leave the house, been through 17 years of hell trying to get the symptoms fully recognised. I have letters from world experts stating I will never work again.)

    Thankyou.



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      Pam
      · 3 days ago
      @Keith From my understanding you would lose it as need to score at least 4 points on one activity. 
      The Labour who have always been so supportive of the sick and disabled are gone and this lot are worse than the Tories unfortunately.  I'm not disabled, worked from 15 years and at 75 I'm still working but have been panelised for my hard work efforts. My daughter is disabled though and will never be medically fit. I feel for everyone who is genuinely disabled/ill as they shouldn't be put under this stress!!
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      bert
      · 10 days ago
      @WorkshyLayabout I could possibly work part-time but will employers take us on, unless of course we could go on work related training through the job centre.
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      bert
      · 10 days ago
      @cats6 Ive had to survive on just job seekers in the past not very pleasant but manageable if you dont have any necessary additional costs.
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      Neil Cook
      · 10 days ago
      @cats6 I'm on what I think is called either an indefinite or recurring fit note so I hope that helps my go surgery said my situation isn't likely to improve any time soon 
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      cats6
      · 10 days ago
      @WorkshyLayabout Same problem with chopped posts and still waiting on another news thread for comment approval.

      Anyhow yes , many will be left with standard element of UC 
      I cannot find anything in the green paper that covers that scenario 
      Zero provisions
      for those still disabled still unfit to hold down any job/ work 
      Maybe they will have to keep appealing..  (that basically says it all, no intention to give real support to those caught up in that mix)
      or keep submitting fit notes to gratify a behind the screen of a computer works coach .
      Poor buggers there's going to be 
      Horrendous consequences .
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    Kevin1342
    · 10 days ago
    Very useful, thank you.
    Doing this exercise made me wonder.  Based on the piffle contained in letters sent to me while they tried to deny me PIP, the DWPs ability to effectively administer anything is limited. If 1000s of people are suddenly denied PIP due to not having 1 descriptor of more than 4 points, how will they cope with all the surge of appeals, fresh claims letters etc.. 
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      Ala
      · 10 days ago
      @Kevin1342 This keeps the money in THEIR bank.   The longer caimants wait, the better.... Seams this is how it works...
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    Jo
    · 11 days ago
    Very good - thank you for taking the time to put this together x
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    James
    · 11 days ago
    Great work 
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    Someone called Bob
    · 11 days ago
    Looking at my two previous awards, it's interesting as I scored 4 points on two descriptors on the first one but then only 4 points on one descriptor on the second three years later and that descriptor was a completely different one that I only scored 2 on during the previous assessment. 

    I was tempted to appeal it at the time, just for consistency but decided against it as the award was given for three years.

    But it just shows how much of a lottery and how inconsistant things can be between assessments. Some of that might be your condition changing somewhat but I think a lot just comes down the assessor. That being said, the original award was a mandatory reconsideration so the first assessment was actually even worse.


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    SLB
    · 11 days ago
    This week has been exhausting (and its only Wednesday), and it's difficult to see what we can do to change things.  However, the one thing I can do personally is write, and so I have written a blog post about the cuts, trying to explain to the non-disabled (and anyone who'll listen) just what this means for the disabled community.  It's a long post, which is why I haven't copied it here, but anyone who wants to read or share it can find it at the following address.  Thanks. 
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      Anon2
      · 9 days ago
      @SLB Your blog is excellent SLB! but one point I would query is you say at various points re the £400 the WCA can apply but in actual fact under the new proposals I thought the extra money paid if you were deemed valid for this award (as in if you get daily PIP with the 4 points or if the mobility element of PIP is included maybe as you say) would be much less. The proposal is to slightly increase the standard UC award and the disability element is to be significantly lowered to £50/week (unsure if that is the correct amount or not but I know it was much lower) on the basis presumably they think the PIP daily living element will compensate for said loss. 
      Does that make sense or have I misinterpreted what has been proposed? 
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      SLB
      · 10 days ago
      @Jonno My assumption is that there will be a court case at some point.  In 2017, the govt were taken to court for not taking into account mental health issues under the mobility section - now they could be taken to court for not recognising being unable to walk as a health condition worthy of LCWRA UC. 
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      Jonno
      · 10 days ago
      @SLB Great blog, Shane. Let's hope disabled organisations and charities are going through this Green Paper assidiously and will take any High Court action as needed.

      I would be more than willing to contribute a small amount to a fighting fund if necessary and hope that others in a similar position will be able to do the same. These proposals need fought tooth and nail.
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      slb
      · 10 days ago
      @Marc Thank you.
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      Marc
      · 10 days ago
      @SLB Good read that, many thanks.

      "Well, if Labour want to salvage any sense of dignity out of this, they should say that getting the mobility element of PIP, like the daily living element, would count as a passport benefit to allow them to get the health element of universal credit"

      I honestly can't see any other feasible solution.
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    Lucky
    · 11 days ago
    Well that will cut the numbers especially if you're stuck indoors 24/7 without carers or and adapted home.  How will millions unable to eat walk or wash themselves cope now oh work pays become an MP 
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    Jonno
    · 11 days ago
    Excellent work. Thanks for all you do.
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    Hazel
    · 11 days ago
    Very helpful
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    Ella16
    · 11 days ago
    This is a really good tool. I used my last award to help me answer so as I was actually using the DWP'S own wording etc about me to be in line with what I think. Thank you 
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      Neal
      · 10 days ago
      @Sick and Tired Even if your health condition worsens, you can request a PIP review form from the Department for Work and Pensions. Update your medical report/s or letter/s.
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      Neal
      · 10 days ago
      @Sick and Tired You can ask DWP (phone call) a pip review award form IF YOY HAVE DEVELOPPED A NEW HEALTH CONDITION then they will send it you then to fill it with medical report/s of this new condition and other old conditions. Good luck S.A.T.
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      Sick and Tired
      · 10 days ago
      @catoswyn Thankyou. I do live in a bungalow.
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      Sick and Tired
      · 10 days ago
      @Neal Thankyou. My PIP runs out in Fen next year. I am expecting the renewal form anytime now... If they use the old rules what is the betting i only get 1 year instead of 5... and therefore face the new rules?
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      Neal
      · 10 days ago
      @Sick and Tired If your health condition requires, in at least one of the 12 descriptors of daily living, someone to directly help you, monitor you, or encourage you to do a task that you cannot do alone, you get 4 points then. The 4 point system starts on November 2026 next year

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