How do you think Labour will treat disabled claimants if, as seems increasingly likely, they form the next government?  Will they be better or worse than the Conservatives?

Last week’s Labour party manifesto left our readers divided on what the future might be like for disabled claimants under Labour.  The document made few references to benefits and gave no clues as to what its attitude would be to major issues such as ESA to UC migration, proposed Green paper changes to PIP or how exactly the WCA might be reformed.

Many readers felt that Labour was just being cautious, because any hint of being soft on claimants would be jumped on by the right-wing press.

Others thought that Labour were saying little because they do not have anything positive to say to disability benefits claimants.  Some think there is little difference between the two parties and some commentors even believe that Labour would be worse news for claimants than the Conservatives.

Certainly, the manifesto could have offered some hope to, for example Carer’s Allowance claimants. A change to the current cliff edge earnings limit would not have major cost implications.

And, to ensure claimant safety, Labour could have offered to look again at the very tight ESA to UC migration deadline imposed on the DWP by the Conservatives.  Delaying the transfer would not cost anything, given that it was previously delayed to 2028 to save money.

Labour could also have stated in the manifesto that they would look at the Green paper proposals for PIP, but that it was unlikely that a voucher system or a catalogue would play any part in any future plans.  Again, this would not have had cost implications.

None of these undertakings would have offered much in the way of ammunition to the right wing press, but all of them would have reassured claimants that Labour would give them some respite from the current relentless attacks.

On the other hand, no part of Labour’s plans include cutting benefits in order to raise cash for other purposes, such as tax cuts.

And, whilst they have said they will replace or reform the WCA, they have not suggested that they will reform PIP.

So, if benefits will play a major part in deciding who you will vote for, readers will have to make an educated guess as to what Labour might do based on minimal information.

Knowing what other claimants are thinking may be helpful in reaching a decision.

So, please take part in our poll to tell us whether you think life would be easier, harder or much the same under Labour rather than the Conservatives and, if you wish, give your reasons in the comments section below.

You can only vote once and we’ll publish the results on Monday 1 July.

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    · 5 months ago
    Part of Conservatives plan is to dismantle the NHS, which cannot be a positive outcome for disabled claimants
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    · 5 months ago
    I hope Labour will be less harsh than the conservatives, but I honestly don’t know if that will be the case. I also think that Labour don’t need to make anything clear about benefits as they don’t need our vote to win the election. I just hope they will be honourable towards us.   
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    · 5 months ago
    Until the Labour Party make their views a lot clearer on the current Green Paper, it’s very difficult to come to any conclusion. It’s about time they got off the fence!
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    · 5 months ago
    As much as I don't trust Labour they are the only alternative to the Tories where I live. I think people really have to consider tactical voting, if the lib Dems, Labour or greens do well wherever you are, vote for them as MP most likely to ensure that a Tory loses a seat. After that we must all do whatever we can to keep the pressure on to treat us better. I told my local Labour candidate no amount of bullying or threats is going to change my DNA or cure me but the right medical (which I'm not getting due to privatised specialist services) and appropriate financial support will mean that if I'm in a position to do ANY work... Even a few hours a month volunteering... I'm going to be far more likely to contribute something.
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    · 5 months ago
    I don't think it will make any difference which party gets into power, the same civil servants will be running the system and I doubt they will want to change anything as it means more work for them all. They will just keep the current plans in operation because people's complaints mean nothing to politicians, ego and status are all they chase while the rest of us are seen to be beneath them.
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour will have such a majority that they will have the power to do as they like, especially with regard to disability benefits, savings and inheritance tax. 

    First on the block could be to make PIP taxable!

    Next might be reducing/scrapping ISA savings limits, to make more savings taxable especially now that interest rates have increased. 

    After that they could reduce thresholds on Inheritance tax, or remove the passing of unused inheritance tax relief to spouse and/or children. This would mean that virtually everyone who owns their property, that their estate would be subject to Capital Gains Tax at 40% (current level).

    All of the above would not be breaking their promise of no tax increases for working people.

    That's the concern with any party having a massive majority, it can do exactly what it wants and no-one can stop them. For democracy to work, it needs a government having a strong opposition. Otherwise it ends up in a one party state, like Russia, China etc. Sadly, and very worryingly, the UK is heading in a very dangerous direction.
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    · 5 months ago
    As usual, when things get tough it's the most vulnerable that get punished. Keep kicking the disabled and the elderly as there will be no reaction.
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    · 5 months ago
    Might as well give Reform a chance - the others have all had their chances and blown them. I don't believe in any pre-election promises as they're just to get the votes.
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    · 5 months ago
    It's more about what the Labour Party is NOT saying, than what they are saying. There is no doubt in my mind that they will be AT LEAST AS SEVERE as the current Government, but of course won't reveal their hand until they are installed in power. I simply cannot trust them to improve things. There will be huge internal power struggles ahead which will see more turbulence than the current lot. Sorry Keir, you don't fool me.
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    · 5 months ago
    Silence on removal of the 2 child benefit is concerning. Thus initial observation seems to be that they maybe as harsh as the ( con) servatives.
    Labour introduced work capability assessments under Evette Cooper, so I don't feel too reassured.
    The manifesto is lean concerning benefit plans and also unambitious . Massive investment is needed to initiate the growth espoused by labour. Much more compassion is needed and a new approach to economics.

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    · 5 months ago
    Anyone is going to be better than the Tories. (Apart from Farage.)
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    · 5 months ago
    Name one Manifesto promise Starmer has ever kept?  That being said, the benefits system was kinder under Blair, Starmer's hero.  Yet Starmer is No Blair.  Having ejected a very popular Labour candidate for a "Like" on a post from 8 years ago, and parachuting in of a friend of Starmer's, the lack of accountability and transparency within the party and its processes, with the secrecy, and police state tactics of the NEC I've lost any trust I had in the party.  I don't trust it to be fair to us, their political opportunism means that we could be for the sacrificial bonfire when they feel threatened - they are too spineless to stand up against anything that challenges them, including the MSM.....We're being run by Murdoch and the rest of the MSM is the reality.
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    · 5 months ago
    2 Things the present Labour and Tory party have.... They lie through their teeth and they Hate anyone on benefits especially disabled ppl and the only thing as bad as them is Nigel Farage party... UK would be a lot better off without these 3.

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    · 5 months ago
    voting tactically to get tories out is the priority. ideally, this could mean voting green or lib dem. if not, cross fingers and vote labour.
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    · 5 months ago
    I reckon Labour has no intention to reform PIP otherwise it would have been addressed in their manifesto. So maybe they see it as the saying goes.. 'Dont try to fix something that is not broken' 

    And the Tories definitely have to go. 

    And maybe that Sunak should be made to part with a large chunk of his ridiculous amount of wealth. (wonder how much tax he pays) I also think that because his wealth he adopts that low, stinking attitude'stuff yous jack, I'm alright, I have no financial worries so to h*** with the rest of humanity' so doesn't give a hoot about ajy other human being. We are all just puppets to him, attacked, manipulated left dangling on a piece of string. 

    Tories have ruined the country since that witch Thatcher. Which makes it a lot harder for another party to repair. 

    I've voted Labour as any other party is better than those cruel cold hearted Tories. Who are supposed to be working for the people of this the country. So called ellite have ruined us. with their use of power, corporate greed, their own personal gains, creating conflicts from every direction it's corrupt that's for sure. 

    Apologies for ranting but we, the people of this country matter,we are meant to be a part of ' United' Britain. The tories cartainly are not interested in uniting it's constituents coz they would rather see us suffer especially where our disabled children, women and men.  Wonder how they would feel react want etc when something happens to either the Tory MPs or members of their families. Be totally different kettle of fish then. Always is...personal gains you see etreme uses of their power. 

    Get Tories out! First and foremost!
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    · 5 months ago
    I'd like to think Labour would be less hostile to sick and disabled claimants, but the lack of any detailed statements about the future of PIP and UC and those who claim them puts me slightly on edge, Labour was the party of "think the unthinkable" when it came to welfare reform and benefit claimants back in the early 2000's, the scary thing is the Lib Dem's and the Greens offer a much more pro disability stance on welfare but the sad thing is they will never see leadership in Parliament, Labour keeping quiet and the Tories filled with and screaming hate concerning welfare claimants doesn't bode well for any of us! I think Reform are just a remixed version of the Tories but even they don't sound as spiteful as Sunak and Stride when it comes to welfare benefits, but it certainly looks like Labour will be our next government fingers crossed for whatever that brings us! 
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    · 5 months ago
    Comments made by current senior Labour figures during these years of Tory governments have shown their attitude towards benefit claimants. They have made plain that Labour is the party of "Working People".  

    We have previously heard Rachel Reeves say that Labour would be tougher on benefits than the Tories. Reeves said in 2015, “Labour are a party of working people, formed for and by working people.” and, "We don’t want to be seen, and we’re not, [as] the party to represent those who are out of work.” 

    In November 2023, Liz Kendall, shadow Work and Pensions Minister said Labour would make sure that, “everyone who can work, does”.

    In her comments to the BBC after Jeremy Hunt's Budget in March 2024 , Reeves argued that her party’s job would be to get people back to work.

    Reeves has said in May 2024 that "if people can work they should be in work" and made it clear Labour would not spend more on the welfare system.

    Labour have said next to nothing about benefits during the election period because they want us to vote for them. 

    I would urge you, don't vote Labour! 

    Vote Greens, Lib Dems, or if you happen to live somewhere with an independent candidate see what their position is on disabled people. But in my view Labour are likely to be at least as vicious as the Tories.
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    · 5 months ago
    It’s simply not possible for Labour to be as harsh to disabled people as the Conservatives have been. 14 years of making people feel worthless is going to take some fixing though. 
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour, having attacked the Conservative government for years over Bedroom Tax, Caps, Limits, uplifts and disability, aren't going to do anything different to the Tories, but neither of the parties attempting to improve conditions for disabled claimants are going to get elected in our two party system.
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    · 5 months ago
    I will not be voting for the tories or labour. At least the tories have been upfront that they are out to get as much as they can off the disabled community to help
    Their manifesto pledges but labour are just being hesitant and secretive and then hit the disabled when they get in. I’m a veteran and my disabilities were caused in service and the likes of starmer & sunak are just going to use the disabled community as an easy target. 😡

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