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8 years 6 months ago #142761 by mommaduck
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Hi cl281,
It was your post that I saw. It's disgraceful how we are being treated at times.
The 'invite' letters don't actually tell you that there is a PIP1 form to start the claim for clients who don't have or can't use a telephone. It's only forums like this that give this info.
My second daughter - who has been away on holiday is due back middle of next week, so I will get her to ring for the form, but at the same time I will still insist upon receiving the form to fill in myself. I find difficult to respond to questions immediately as I now have significant memory issues and it takes me a while to understand written stuff, never mind spoken instruction etc.
It takes me ages to think about and absorb posts on this site and then respond..never mind responding to questions that one has never seen before.
It's rather ironic that on the one hand they are prepared to accept that some claimants need help and assistance on the phone and are prepared for a carer to make the call for them and pass on the answers, but I wonder if during an assessment, the assessor takes this same view. I doubt it.
It was your post that I saw. It's disgraceful how we are being treated at times.
The 'invite' letters don't actually tell you that there is a PIP1 form to start the claim for clients who don't have or can't use a telephone. It's only forums like this that give this info.
My second daughter - who has been away on holiday is due back middle of next week, so I will get her to ring for the form, but at the same time I will still insist upon receiving the form to fill in myself. I find difficult to respond to questions immediately as I now have significant memory issues and it takes me a while to understand written stuff, never mind spoken instruction etc.
It takes me ages to think about and absorb posts on this site and then respond..never mind responding to questions that one has never seen before.
It's rather ironic that on the one hand they are prepared to accept that some claimants need help and assistance on the phone and are prepared for a carer to make the call for them and pass on the answers, but I wonder if during an assessment, the assessor takes this same view. I doubt it.
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8 years 6 months ago #142762 by MariW
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I am grateful to mommaduck and cl281 for sharing their difficulties in persuading the DWP to issue a paper PIP1.
I’ve stated a couple of times that I am uncomfortable with the telephone version of the PIP1 due to throat problems and the risk involved in handling this key-stage in the procedure over to a third-party:
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?view=top...05734&start=6#141902
I always prefer a paper-trail when dealing with the DWP but preference aside the attitude that mommaduck and cl281 have described discriminates against any claimant unable to use a telephone reliably be it for physical or psychological reasons.
What if mommaduck and cl281, and in time, other members hold out for a paper PIP1 and do not receive it. In post #142710 cl281 referred to the possible use of the specimen form in extreme circumstances. I would (just about) be prepared to permit a third-party to initiate my claim in the way cl281 suggests she might do for her son if I could then send the specimen form to the DWP with a covering letter describing the circumstances.
To which DWP address are paper PIP1 forms returned? Is it the claimant’s own benefit office or the Personal Independence Payment New Claims department?
Thanks,
Mari
I’ve stated a couple of times that I am uncomfortable with the telephone version of the PIP1 due to throat problems and the risk involved in handling this key-stage in the procedure over to a third-party:
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?view=top...05734&start=6#141902
I always prefer a paper-trail when dealing with the DWP but preference aside the attitude that mommaduck and cl281 have described discriminates against any claimant unable to use a telephone reliably be it for physical or psychological reasons.
What if mommaduck and cl281, and in time, other members hold out for a paper PIP1 and do not receive it. In post #142710 cl281 referred to the possible use of the specimen form in extreme circumstances. I would (just about) be prepared to permit a third-party to initiate my claim in the way cl281 suggests she might do for her son if I could then send the specimen form to the DWP with a covering letter describing the circumstances.
To which DWP address are paper PIP1 forms returned? Is it the claimant’s own benefit office or the Personal Independence Payment New Claims department?
Thanks,
Mari
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8 years 6 months ago #142763 by mommaduck
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HI Gordon,
Just wanted to add: In my second letter requesting the PIP1 form, I addressed it directly to the manager - don't know if this will make a difference?
I also stated in underlined bold, that this letter was the 'Start of my claim for Personal Independence Payment'.
Could this legally be taken as such regardless of when or if I get the PIP1 form?
I remember in the past that to initiate a claim regardless of having a claim form for the appropriate benefit that one could just send a letter saying that this letter was a claim for the particular benefit and benefit would then be paid from that date if you qualified.
Just wanted to add: In my second letter requesting the PIP1 form, I addressed it directly to the manager - don't know if this will make a difference?
I also stated in underlined bold, that this letter was the 'Start of my claim for Personal Independence Payment'.
Could this legally be taken as such regardless of when or if I get the PIP1 form?
I remember in the past that to initiate a claim regardless of having a claim form for the appropriate benefit that one could just send a letter saying that this letter was a claim for the particular benefit and benefit would then be paid from that date if you qualified.
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8 years 6 months ago #142771 by mommaduck
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Just a further update. RESULT!
Just had an email from my MP. They have phoned PIP and the forms are now in the post.
Thanks for all your help and advice.. it worked.
Just had an email from my MP. They have phoned PIP and the forms are now in the post.
Thanks for all your help and advice.. it worked.
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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #142776 by Gordon
I'm afraid we don't know whether it's the address that you make the request to, see
www.gov.uk/pip/how-to-claim
or there will be a different address nominated in the letter that will undoubtedly be included with the PIP1 form.
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MariW wrote: I am grateful to mommaduck and cl281 for sharing their difficulties in persuading the DWP to issue a paper PIP1.
I’ve stated a couple of times that I am uncomfortable with the telephone version of the PIP1 due to throat problems and the risk involved in handling this key-stage in the procedure over to a third-party:
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/forum?view=top...05734&start=6#141902
I always prefer a paper-trail when dealing with the DWP but preference aside the attitude that mommaduck and cl281 have described discriminates against any claimant unable to use a telephone reliably be it for physical or psychological reasons.
What if mommaduck and cl281, and in time, other members hold out for a paper PIP1 and do not receive it. In post #142710 cl281 referred to the possible use of the specimen form in extreme circumstances. I would (just about) be prepared to permit a third-party to initiate my claim in the way cl281 suggests she might do for her son if I could then send the specimen form to the DWP with a covering letter describing the circumstances.
To which DWP address are paper PIP1 forms returned? Is it the claimant’s own benefit office or the Personal Independence Payment New Claims department?
Thanks,
Mari
I'm afraid we don't know whether it's the address that you make the request to, see
www.gov.uk/pip/how-to-claim
or there will be a different address nominated in the letter that will undoubtedly be included with the PIP1 form.
Gordon
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8 years 6 months ago #142777 by Gordon
It is possible but let's hope that you don't need to rely on it.
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mommaduck wrote: HI Gordon,
Just wanted to add: In my second letter requesting the PIP1 form, I addressed it directly to the manager - don't know if this will make a difference?
I also stated in underlined bold, that this letter was the 'Start of my claim for Personal Independence Payment'.
Could this legally be taken as such regardless of when or if I get the PIP1 form?
I remember in the past that to initiate a claim regardless of having a claim form for the appropriate benefit that one could just send a letter saying that this letter was a claim for the particular benefit and benefit would then be paid from that date if you qualified.
It is possible but let's hope that you don't need to rely on it.
Gordon
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