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1 year 3 months ago #281454 by raindaisy
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Rang today BIS , FYI connection took 50 mins.
Requested a new decision letter as not recived.
" I can log a MR now if you like?"
Me: Well you can but I have no input , as I need to see the decision makers logic first.
So MR not logged.
Meanwhile , I began prepping my MR.
Going to just park this here , for future reference.
PIP history
1. Claim 1 12/03/2014
2. F2f 10/01/2015
3. Decision Date: 04/02/2015. Daily Living- 0pts. Moving- 0pts Planning- 0pts MR decision: Unchanged
4. Appeal FTT 10/07/2015. Appeal Allowed. Daily Living- 0pts Moving- 8pts Planning 0pts.
5. Standard Rate Mobility awarded.
6. PIP2 ( IU) Intervention 11 March 2016
7. F2f 06/07/2016
8. Decision Date: 18 July 2016 Daily Living 9pts Moving 4pts Planning 4pts.
9. Standard Rate Daily Living Awarded
10. Standard Rate Mobility Awarded.
11. PIP AR1 10 July 2018 Completed.
12. F2f 22/01/2019
13. Decision Date: 1 February 2019 Daily Living 6pts Moving 4pts Planning 0pts.
14. Daily Living Standard Rate ended. Mobility Standard Rate ended.
15. Request for Mandatory Reconsideration 22/02/2019
16. Mandatory Reconsideration Notice 24/04/2019 . Decision : Unchanged. Nil Award.
17. Notice of Appeal against DWP SSCS1 lodged 21/05/2019
18. Telephone call from DWP re Appeal 26/06/2019. Declined lapsed appeal offer.
19. Telephone call from DWP re Appeal 27/06/2019. Accepted lapsed appeal offer.
Standard Rate Awarded. 11 Points. Higher Rate Mobility. Moving 8 points. Planning 4 pts. Decision letter dated 29/06/2019.
20. HM Courts & Tribunals Lapsed Appeal Notice : 02/07/2019.
21. £2,371.13 paid in arrears from DWP. 03/07/2019.
22. Award Extendended from 26 June 2022 to January 2023.
23. Award Extended from January 2023 to June 2023.
24. Award Extended from June 2023 to June 2024.
25. May 2022 AR1 received and completed 09/06/2022.
26. Telephone HCP Assessment : 13 June 2023.
27. Telephone DWP PIP : Award reduced by payment due 14/07/2023.
28. Medical Report Received : 15 June 2023. No Mobility Awarded
29. contacted acted DWP requested Decision Notice. 04/07/02023.
Requested a new decision letter as not recived.
" I can log a MR now if you like?"
Me: Well you can but I have no input , as I need to see the decision makers logic first.
So MR not logged.
Meanwhile , I began prepping my MR.
Going to just park this here , for future reference.
PIP history
1. Claim 1 12/03/2014
2. F2f 10/01/2015
3. Decision Date: 04/02/2015. Daily Living- 0pts. Moving- 0pts Planning- 0pts MR decision: Unchanged
4. Appeal FTT 10/07/2015. Appeal Allowed. Daily Living- 0pts Moving- 8pts Planning 0pts.
5. Standard Rate Mobility awarded.
6. PIP2 ( IU) Intervention 11 March 2016
7. F2f 06/07/2016
8. Decision Date: 18 July 2016 Daily Living 9pts Moving 4pts Planning 4pts.
9. Standard Rate Daily Living Awarded
10. Standard Rate Mobility Awarded.
11. PIP AR1 10 July 2018 Completed.
12. F2f 22/01/2019
13. Decision Date: 1 February 2019 Daily Living 6pts Moving 4pts Planning 0pts.
14. Daily Living Standard Rate ended. Mobility Standard Rate ended.
15. Request for Mandatory Reconsideration 22/02/2019
16. Mandatory Reconsideration Notice 24/04/2019 . Decision : Unchanged. Nil Award.
17. Notice of Appeal against DWP SSCS1 lodged 21/05/2019
18. Telephone call from DWP re Appeal 26/06/2019. Declined lapsed appeal offer.
19. Telephone call from DWP re Appeal 27/06/2019. Accepted lapsed appeal offer.
Standard Rate Awarded. 11 Points. Higher Rate Mobility. Moving 8 points. Planning 4 pts. Decision letter dated 29/06/2019.
20. HM Courts & Tribunals Lapsed Appeal Notice : 02/07/2019.
21. £2,371.13 paid in arrears from DWP. 03/07/2019.
22. Award Extendended from 26 June 2022 to January 2023.
23. Award Extended from January 2023 to June 2023.
24. Award Extended from June 2023 to June 2024.
25. May 2022 AR1 received and completed 09/06/2022.
26. Telephone HCP Assessment : 13 June 2023.
27. Telephone DWP PIP : Award reduced by payment due 14/07/2023.
28. Medical Report Received : 15 June 2023. No Mobility Awarded
29. contacted acted DWP requested Decision Notice. 04/07/02023.
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1 year 3 months ago #281467 by Chris
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Replied by Chris on topic Review.... PIP Telephone Assessment ....1 year later
Hi Daisy - I commented on your other post, but I got a text message saying that my MR had been received and they would respond within 8 weeks. Not sure if this answers your question. The response was 10 days after sending a signed for delivery letter costing £4.20.
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1 year 3 months ago #281479 by BIS
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Hi Raindaisy
I'm glad you managed to get through. The thing that sticks out for me is what justification did the assessor give for taking away your mobility and how are you going to counter their argument? You don't have to say so here, but that appears to be the area you have the biggest fight. The assessor's opinion clearly varies from your Tribunal decision. I'm not saying that you missed saying anything on your review form or there is something lacking in your evidence, but do go back to the PIP Guide to Claims and Reviews and see if there's anything in the examples that you can add to your argument.
BIS
I'm glad you managed to get through. The thing that sticks out for me is what justification did the assessor give for taking away your mobility and how are you going to counter their argument? You don't have to say so here, but that appears to be the area you have the biggest fight. The assessor's opinion clearly varies from your Tribunal decision. I'm not saying that you missed saying anything on your review form or there is something lacking in your evidence, but do go back to the PIP Guide to Claims and Reviews and see if there's anything in the examples that you can add to your argument.
BIS
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1 year 3 months ago #281482 by fitzk
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Hi, i have just had my phone assessment and find this thread really helpful, so thank you. My questions were so twisted i will be lucky to get any mobility even though i can hardly walk now. So i will probably be at appeal too.
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1 year 3 months ago #281582 by raindaisy
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HI BIS
The lapsed appeal in 2019 , my argument was both MH and mobility.
In 2014 , the FFT award standard for moving around. That was fair. At the time although I still had ongoing MH , it was ok.
Happy Bunny. All fair.
However , time has crept on , things have progressed and my physical health and MH has been an ongoing issue.
Then all the shenanigans with PIP.
AT the time in 2019 both mobility and MH were big issues.
Fibroymalgia CFS OA all declining. GP has records of this.
I didnt accept the first offer of lapsed appeal , because not only was he rude and aggressive on the phone I said I would take my chances with the Tribunal , one who knew the law, one with medical qualification and someone who would understand the perils of chronic illness. He was not a happy bunny.
I also put in I had had an recent ESA assessment , f2f , and remained in the support group , used the same evidence and it was aknowledged , I met the criteria.
He rang back the next day .
Said he read the ESA medical report and decison and changed his decison.
But he went for 4 pts planning, ( MH Evidence) and 8 pts Mobility ( Tribunal 2014) although my ESA comment on walking less than 50 meters.
His parting commment was and I quote
"you wont get it next time, youll have to make a fresh claim"
Nice.
At the time of completing the AR1 in JUne last year, I was under MH services for 7 months. I provided the evidence. But nothing since last year , as constraints etc.
The HCP , did not aknowledge MH , but did "consider" prompting, but mentioned MH , but low mood, low medication.
As for the moving around. It was a telephone call.
Not sure how she saw me walk 50 meteres....?
I am in pain from the onset of walking ...time distance and speed all slow and covered by ESA.
Covered by GP etc...
So..my plan.
Im in an angry knot again.
Im sick of the way Fibromyalgia is gaslighted. Im sick of the way MH is swept under " no specialist input" carpet.
I contacted my GP . The DWP have not contacted the GP for medical evidence since 2014. And that was for ESA. Nothing for PIP.
I have a SARS , and will carefully pick through and send GP notes.
A close friend of 40 years , a retired CPN Nurse , offered help, and has written a banging statement.
But its the 7th July ......still NO decision letter!!
Im going to argue the fact 4 pts for planning with supporting evidence again.
and 12 points for moving around . Its a high bar.
If I lose the award , like I have done these past years ... so be it.
But im like a dog with a bone...I will not let go,
The lapsed appeal in 2019 , my argument was both MH and mobility.
In 2014 , the FFT award standard for moving around. That was fair. At the time although I still had ongoing MH , it was ok.
Happy Bunny. All fair.
However , time has crept on , things have progressed and my physical health and MH has been an ongoing issue.
Then all the shenanigans with PIP.
AT the time in 2019 both mobility and MH were big issues.
Fibroymalgia CFS OA all declining. GP has records of this.
I didnt accept the first offer of lapsed appeal , because not only was he rude and aggressive on the phone I said I would take my chances with the Tribunal , one who knew the law, one with medical qualification and someone who would understand the perils of chronic illness. He was not a happy bunny.
I also put in I had had an recent ESA assessment , f2f , and remained in the support group , used the same evidence and it was aknowledged , I met the criteria.
He rang back the next day .
Said he read the ESA medical report and decison and changed his decison.
But he went for 4 pts planning, ( MH Evidence) and 8 pts Mobility ( Tribunal 2014) although my ESA comment on walking less than 50 meters.
His parting commment was and I quote
"you wont get it next time, youll have to make a fresh claim"
Nice.
At the time of completing the AR1 in JUne last year, I was under MH services for 7 months. I provided the evidence. But nothing since last year , as constraints etc.
The HCP , did not aknowledge MH , but did "consider" prompting, but mentioned MH , but low mood, low medication.
As for the moving around. It was a telephone call.
Not sure how she saw me walk 50 meteres....?
I am in pain from the onset of walking ...time distance and speed all slow and covered by ESA.
Covered by GP etc...
So..my plan.
Im in an angry knot again.
Im sick of the way Fibromyalgia is gaslighted. Im sick of the way MH is swept under " no specialist input" carpet.
I contacted my GP . The DWP have not contacted the GP for medical evidence since 2014. And that was for ESA. Nothing for PIP.
I have a SARS , and will carefully pick through and send GP notes.
A close friend of 40 years , a retired CPN Nurse , offered help, and has written a banging statement.
But its the 7th July ......still NO decision letter!!
Im going to argue the fact 4 pts for planning with supporting evidence again.
and 12 points for moving around . Its a high bar.
If I lose the award , like I have done these past years ... so be it.
But im like a dog with a bone...I will not let go,
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1 year 3 months ago #281586 by Gary
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Hi raindaisy
As you have stated, you have nothing to loose, so go for it let us know how you get on.
Gary
As you have stated, you have nothing to loose, so go for it let us know how you get on.
Gary
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