The DWP have finally stated that people over state pension age “will not be affected by the proposed changes” to personal independence payment (PIP) set out in the Pathways To Work Green Paper.  However, questions still remain.

Ever since the Green Paper was published there has been a lack of clarity about whether pension age PIP claimants would be caught by the PIP 4-point rule.  Although the Green Paper made reference to the “working-age PIP caseload” there was no explicit statement that pension age claimants would be exempt.

It is the case that, once you reach state pension age, your award will usually become an ongoing award.  Whilst this means your PIP award does not have an end date, it doesn’t mean it will never be checked.

Instead, you are likely to have an award review every 10 years, according to a statement made by Amber Rudd – the then secretary of state for work and pensions – in May 2019.

But this could lead to a situation where claimants could lose their award at the age of say 76.

In an attempt to settle the matter, Labour MP Neil Duncan-Jordan asked the secretary of state in a written question:

“. . . what assessment she has made on the potential impact of the measure set out in the Pathways to Work: Reforming Benefits and Support to Get Britain Working Green Paper, published on 18 March 2025 on PIP claimants of retirement age.”

DWP disability minister Stephen Timms answered:

 “Our intention is that the new eligibility requirement in Personal Independence Payment (PIP), in which people must score a minimum of four points in one daily living activity to be eligible for the daily living component, will apply to new claims and award reviews from November 2026, subject to parliamentary approval. In keeping with existing policy, people over State Pension Age are not routinely fully reviewed and will not be affected by the proposed changes.”

This does seem to suggest that claimants above state pension age are not being targeted by the DWP.  But it does leave several unanswered questions.

The first is just why this was not made explicit in the Green Paper, when it was clearly going to be a matter of enormous concern.

The second is what does “not routinely fully reviewed” mean?  In fact, thousands of claimants over pension age do have a planned award review after they reach pension age. 

In the year to January 2025, 12,300 pension age PIP claimants had a planned award review.  It is not clear why these happened or whether they will continue after November 2026.

In addition, 19,238 pension age PIP claimants had a change of circumstances review in the same period.

It is possible to move from the standard to the enhanced rate of PIP after state pension age by asking for a change of circumstances review, if your needs increase. 

However, if a claimant does not have any 4-point descriptors then there is nothing in the minister’s answer to guarantee that they would not run the risk of losing their daily living award altogether if they asked for a review after November 2026.

As with so much about the Green Paper, there is an impression of ideas being cobbled together after publication.  This impression was reinforced by a separate parliamentary answer, in which Timms wrote:

 “Some information on the impacts of the Pathways to Work Green Paper was published alongside the Spring Statement and can be found at this link: Pathways to Work: Reforming Benefits and Support to Get Britain Working Green Paper - GOV.UK. More information on the impacts will be published in due course, a further programme of analysis to support development of the proposals in the Green Paper will be developed and undertaken in the coming months.”

Nonetheless, this news will come as a welcome relief for pension age PIP claimants.

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    · 4 days ago
    I have Pip till March 2026. I am 66 in the October 2026. What will my situation be. Will I still have the March review? 
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    · 11 days ago
    Im so worries as im 66 in December 2026 and the systems takes effect in November 2026 and that one month before my retirement age but I have been awarded PIP this time for 10 years and am not going to get better and this absolutely terrifies me.
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    · 12 days ago
    All of these proposed changes to PIP is discrimination against disabled and the sick it's immoral and u can't believe our government could stoop so low 
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      · 10 hours ago
      @Jane Crawford This government cares only to squandering taxpayers' money on wars everywhere...
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    · 27 days ago
    Maybe soft touch reviews are not assessed by giving points to the different questions like a full review.
    So the new rules maybe don’t apply to 10 year soft touch reviews.
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      · 17 days ago
      @Catherine
      They're not. People do not understand. 

      A ten year review is a light touch review once you've movrd to Pension.

      This is NOT a full review. Just a 3 page form to sign.

      Timms clearly says Pensioners won't be affected. This is why.
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    · 1 months ago
    I don’t understand the need for all of those expensive assessments especially when many of us have life long progressive conditions with no cure.
    What annoys me even more is that we are all diagnosed by fully qualified Doctors and Specialists. Therefore how can any Government justify forcing reassessments on us by people less qualified than our specialists.
    I
     have multiple autoimmune diseases, Heart Failure and have recently been diagnosed with Vascular Dementia which gives me 5years or less to live, yet this is not classed as a terminal disease.

    I also strongly believe that this Government is in violation of our human rights simply because of the way they disrespect us and for there lack of empathy.Life for all of us is hard enough without the added fear and stress they continually cause us.
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      · 11 days ago
      @Inglis25 I totally agree with you and am petrified with worry about this. 
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      · 18 days ago
      @Inglis25 After pension age I personally lost money when having to change 
      .I was never asked the distance or if it caused me pain. Also , I  lost points because it was decided if I can get in and out of  a car I can get in and out of a bath and that we had taken out the family bath years before and put in a shower for our convenience !!
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    · 1 months ago
    Pip due to be reviewed Feb 2027… pension age July 2027.. do I miss out from being excempt   or ‘light touch review’?
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      · 17 days ago
      @John
      Yes  It only becomes "Ongoing" if it'a a 10-year Light Touch review,  due AFTER you retire.

      The issue is we don't know if this rule will change !.

      But you WILL have a full review.
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    · 1 months ago
    If people of state pension age with an ongoing award for PIP are included in in the new minimum 4 point rule, then it makes a mockery of the governments claim that the new scoring system is designed to get disabled people back into the workplace.  I have an ongoing PIP award and scored 9 points on my daily living component, but none above 3 points, so therefore is the governments plan to find me a job when I am 75 and disabled?   
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    · 1 months ago
    After reading other comments and concerns
    I wonder myself if a light touch review will still be a thing and will a review after 10yrs or once reaching pension age have to meet the possible upcoming award points increase
    As always with adhoc policy making who knows
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    · 2 months ago
    I note a few comments on here ref to claimants with long awards (I assume 10yr awards)if the 4 points system gets passed will they be affected or will there awards be left alone and come under the old rules and get reassessed at the end of there 10 yr awards.
    As the way I see it it would or will apply to new claims and reassessments when they are due after nov 26 
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      · 17 days ago
      @pjp
      Indefinite awards are not reviewed if you are of Pension age. It is a Light Touch 3-page form to check you're still alive.

      I wish people would read the rules.

      The ONLY issue for Pensioners on a 10 year award is "Will the current rule change ?"

      Timms implies it won't. He clearly states Pensioners won't suffer.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Dez They mean the same
      A Personal Independence Payment (PIP) award can be indefinite, also known as "ongoing," if a fixed-term award would be inappropriate in the circumstances. This typically occurs when a claimant's needs are stable and unlikely to change, or if they have high levels of functional impairment that are likely to increase. Indefinite awards are usually reviewed every 10 years. 
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      · 2 months ago
      @Dez
      I wonder if that means those on "indefinite awards" for D.L.A. are included in this "reviewing the length of time between reviews for indefinite awards"
      I am one of the members still on D.L.A.  I was born in 1947 so just miss having to claim PIP by a few months. Not taking anything for granted, which Is why I joined B&W.
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      · 2 months ago
      @Tom Sorry, I misspoke in my last comment. I meant to put "indefinite awards" instead of "ongoing awards" in my first sentence. 
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      · 2 months ago
      @Tom The Green Paper was pretty vague in terms of ongoing awards. Presumably because there's probably a lot of legal red tape surrounding them. 

      Part of it seemed to suggest they would be honoured as common sense dictates that indefinite awards are only given to those who are very unlikely to get better but, at the same time, I wouldn't put anything past this government. 

      They're already talking about "reviewing the length of time between reviews for indefinite awards" because they're clearly not happy with the number of people on them. Never mind that most people on them are of State Pension age (because that's one of the stipulations for having one) and aren't subject to the new rules anyway.

      But as to what that entails, I have no idea. It could be that people just get the light touch form every five years vs. ten. Which isn't ideal but as long as they don't change the form, I'll take it as the tiniest silver lining. 
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    · 2 months ago
    Could anyone answer my question please?
    In the main outline above by B&W, it says 'The DWP have finally stated that people over state pension age “will not be affected by the proposed changes” to personal independence payment'.
    I am 65 years old, and will be 66 (officially retired) in September - but not yet "over state pension age".

    Will I be included in the "not affected by the proposed changes" group?
    It's just that I read the article that said they had calculated 690k people aged between 65 to 79 receiving PIP in January, so wondered if I am protected by the changes?
    Thanks for your help and 🤞.
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      · 25 days ago
      @ves As the changes need to pass through Parliament first and the proposed date of change is November 2026 I would assume becoming a State Pensioner in September 2025 the changes should not affect you. But a lot more details will I dare say be released by the government and they have no guarantee as such that tge bill will be passed as there is said to be quite a bit of opposition from Labour MPs. So we all will have to wait and see.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Edith Yes
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      · 1 months ago
      @ves I am 72 in October. I got a letter telling me that my PIP award will be reviewed in 2028 when I will be 75. I suffer with multiple autoimmune diseases Heart Disease and Asthma. I was diagnosed today with early onset Vascular Dementia caused by small vessel disease and TIA’s. Do I need to report this new added diagnoses? I live in Scotland.
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      · 2 months ago
      @ves I’m the same
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    · 2 months ago
    That’s double speak and does not clarify anything. We already know that reports are due AFTER the vote, which helps nobody. I’ve been referred to the Primary MH Team because of this, and I won’t be the only one… 

    FYI Parliament Summer Recess begins on July 22nd.
    ✊❤️
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      · 1 months ago
      @ANGELA I strongly believe that putting this extreme pressure and stress on people who are already suffering 24/7 with debilitating ill heath. Is cruel. We are all told by our Doctors to avoid stress as that exacerbates our suffering. Those involved in the decisions to target pensioners the sick and the disabled should hang their heads in shame. To target the most vulnerable in society is tantamount to BULLYING and there is nothing honourable about that.
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    · 2 months ago
    For anyone wondering about the virtual meetings for the consultation, apparently emails will come out "soon" and the meetings will be on Teams.  I thought some people might want the heads up so they can download the software if they need to. :)
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      · 11 days ago
      @SLB No app needed. Teams can be used on your web browser with a link 
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    · 2 months ago
    Why believe that??
    They lied to the voters and they are lying now so they can pick away at the vulnerable people then once they are out of the way the monsters will come back finish the rest off while they are on their pensions or not because they just going to scrap the whole benefit system down to the bone.
    Amen to that…
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    · 2 months ago
    Labour are going to pass the benefits cuts with Tory support regardless of Runcorn, regardless of the Local Elections. When it comes to disability benefits there has obviously been a cross party agreement from Reform, Tories and Labour to make cuts and to marginalise disabled people.

    They will not change course and that's why disabled people should form an umbrella political group to vote for or against candidates who are either pro or anti-disabled regardless of political ideology. 
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      · 17 days ago
      @Brain Williams Or he's stating that targeting disabled people is pointless. Instead... tax the wealthy.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Dave Dee Yes I agree with you Nigel Farage said we spend 70 billion on welfare and the Labour cuts only amount to 5 billion saved he actually said Labour hasn't gone far enough!

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    · 2 months ago
    One of Starmers statements was it is undignified claiming benefits.
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      · 1 months ago
      @Gibbo Or accepting freebies when millionaires and in a position of trust!
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      · 1 months ago
      @Bert The only thing undignified is politicians accepting inflated pay rises for themselves for not serving the country with sincere compassion and dignity. Politicians has always = self and wealth before others health.
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    · 2 months ago

    Complete dismissal, just trot out the same tired lies and lines of this is what we're doing because it'll be so good for you all.  Ignorance.  We and our views do not matter to them and they are not listening.
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    · 2 months ago
    https://youtube.com/shorts/1GPyE_R-fHs?si=8ZAybNCdWHMPNlpX

    Touching YouTube about the expense of chronic illness.
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      · 4 days ago
      @A I also got ill health retirement from DWP. A month later I was asked to attend a fit for work interview by the very same company (ATOS) who had stayed o wasn’t fit for work!  What a farce this country is. I wanted to keep my job & fought hard. I was apparently unfit to do a job for DWP. I’m now retired & worried sick about losing my PIP award 
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      · 2 months ago
      @rookie A DWP spokesperson said: “We have set out a sweeping package of reforms to health and disability benefits that genuinely supports people back into work and lifts people out of poverty, while putting the welfare system on a more sustainable footing so that the safety net is always there to protect those who need it most.

      “Our £1bn employment support package will unlock work as part of our Plan for Change, alongside increasing the living wage, boosting benefits, and introducing a fair repayment rate to help more than a million low-income households on universal credit.”

      I find statements from the DWP so hilarious, considering they sacked me because they wouldn't support my disability in work, when they so easily could have. They are so full of sh*t.
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      · 2 months ago
      @rookie The elephant in the rooms always ignored until he starts to trumpet loudly. 
      Surprised they didn't first need an enquiry to see if they could have an enquiry, good at squandering money on senseless nonsense and fiddle while Rome burns. 
      We can tell them ALL  they need to know as to where this is all heading,but hey why should they listen to us,we are disposable.  
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