Well over 100,000 people have signed petitions objecting to legislation, currently in the House of Lords, which will allow the DWP to snoop on claimants’ bank accounts.  In addition, the UK Information Commissioner has challenged the way the law has been drafted.

Benefits and Work readers who are unhappy at the plans may wish to sign one or more of the petitions.  Especially as, the more smoothly these laws are passed, the more emboldened the DWP will be to move onto laws giving it powers of arrest, search and seizure and the right to impose massive fines without going anywhere near a court.

The petition on the Organise site headed “Prevent the DWP from scrutinising disabled people’s bank accounts” has attracted almost 80,000 signatures.

Stop the Government from spying on all of our bank accounts” on the 38 Degrees site has over 33,000 signatures.

Do not introduce regular bank account checks for benefit claimants” on the parliament website has just under 16,000 signatures so far.

John Edwards, the UK Information Commissioner at the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) has written to the Times suggesting that the current wording of the bill too loose.  This will not prevent it passing into law, but it may give claimants some additional protections.

Edwards wrote:

“Proposed powers to allow the government to inspect people’s bank accounts to reduce benefit fraud raise questions as to society’s appetite for potentially intrusive measures to reduce a problem that costs the country billions of pounds.

 “As is so often the case, the answer lies in proportionality. The law must be sufficiently clear to give people an adequate indication of the conditions and circumstances in which the authorities can use such measures. And there must be safeguards to protect people.

 “Key to assessing proportionality are questions such as ‘Will the proposed intervention work?’, ‘Will it produce high numbers of false positives?’ and ‘Are there more or equally effective mechanisms available that do not involve the same level of intrusion?’”

 “As the data regulator, my office continues to work with the Department for Work and Pensions on this, in particular on whether the proposal is sufficiently tightly drafted.”

The DWP snuck in the new powers as amendments to the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill.  There was no consultation, no opportunity for discussion and no chance to explore alternatives.

If they are successful in getting the current measures through with little opposition, it seems likely that the government will use the same tactics to allow the DWP to acquire the power to arrest claimants, search homes, seize property and impose huge fines without ever going to court.

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    Jeanette · 3 months ago
    Where would it stop.  We already know from the post office scandal that an organisation being allowed to police itself doesn't work and the DWP already believe they are above everybody else and that they can make their own rules.  While I appreciate that there is fraud committed this is by a small number so why should everybody suffer this intrusion.  How would the DWP know, from just looking at a bank account, who is committing fraud?  What about people who have a joint bank account with a person who doesn't receive benefits? This really must be stopped.

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    Steve vizard · 3 months ago
    I don't agree with this new bank account spying. I've had enough of the DWP and all their hassles. We must stop this. A bank account is private. 
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      Vendick · 3 months ago
      @Steve vizard Our son had to hand six months of bank statements over when they (the DWP) decided that his claim was ‘fraudulent’.  He has been on the same benefits (UC) with the same rent the same gas and electric cards etc etc.  He had to provide 21 separate pieces of information from his passport - with a photo of him holding the passport open, a photo of his flat with him standing by his front door with the number of  the flat visi

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    tangodennis · 3 months ago
    please note the snooping bill will also iclude pensioners on pension credits so big brother coming after pensioners  not only disabled people. remember theres a election due and the tories will be out in force again attacking people on benefits. Remember just look at the first 3 letters of CONservative party name that in my mind gives a adequate description. they are just a bunch of con artists
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    Pauline · 3 months ago
    I was called in to our local job centre just before Christmas a few years ago, my Son came with me. 
     A man came out and called me and I had to walk all through the main room to a small office with all eyes watching! It wasn’t until I was sat in the man’s office that I was told I hadn’t reported my late Husband pension. It then occurred to me that they thought I’d been committing a fraud!  
    I knew I had told them but I even started to doubt myself after all the questions! They obviously thought the pension was for 100’s of pounds, in fact it was £30 a month. 
    He sent me away with a date after Christmas to come back which spoilt my Christmas completely. 
    For the next few days/week I was like a woman possessed going through all of my paperwork! 
    I eventually found written proof that I had informed them. 
    We attended the appointment in January and showed the man the paperwork. The smug arrogance had disappeared after he’d taken it away to photocopy, in fact he said “I trust if they take you to court you’ll fight it!!!”
    I said “ I most definitely will”. 
    I have had no word of apology from anyone at the DWP even though it was a MISTAKE ON THEIR PART!  

    After my experience, no I don’t think it’s a good idea to access bank accounts unless other stringent measures have been carried out and proven beforehand that fraud is being committed, maybe then and only then. 
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    MrFibro · 3 months ago
    Absolutely intrusive measures, which you just cant fathom at all.

    Other nations would be brought to their knees such as France for example,  if their government were to introduce such measures. But no Brits simply stand for this nonsense all the time.
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      Mo64 · 3 months ago
      @MrFibro Get a some sort of protest going, its the only way to stop this, I'm sure there is enough of us if we put our minds to it?
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      Andy · 3 months ago
      @Anabela I agree, apart from the racist bit
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      Anabela · 3 months ago
      @MrFibro This is a Fascist, racist, feudalistic attitude and should not give this power to this Tories use and treats us like a garbiche 
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    Badger · 3 months ago
    Let’s look at Suella Braverman bank account she claims nearly 300K in expenses! She claims the most out of every other MP! My old adage is who’s checking the checker? I’ve seen today that the DWP are ripping claimants of to pay for their errors!! This law they are trying to bring in will give way to snoop on every citizen’s account not just the disabled.
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      Sarah · 3 months ago
      @Badger Exactly it would eventually effect everyone. Starting with innocent disabled people. They are targeting vulnerable of society. The people must protest. Sign and share the petitions. 
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    Limbolife · 3 months ago
    I have nothing to hide in my bank account but I still think this is intrusive. 
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      Sue · 3 months ago
      @Am Exactly, this is the start of them snooping on EVERYONE, IT STARTS WITH THE DWP AND THEN THE GOVERNMENT SNOOPS ON THOSE WORKING...
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      Am · 3 months ago
      @Limbolife Do you ever transfer money, to other accounts like savings or as gifts or payments? Do you ever buy goods from abroad? Do you ever receive cash gifts that you pay into your account, ever won money? None of that is against the rules, but if the algorithm flags you for audit, are you ok with your benefits stopping and the bank freezing your account access? Will you be able to pay your rent and buy food for the months it takes for a real person to carry out the checks? Are you happy.to be interrogated like a criminal? None of this is safe, for any of us, fraudulent or no.
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    denby · 3 months ago
    Please everyone sign and share the Government petition as this will carry the most weight. If it gets to 100,000 they are obliged to debate it, even if in Westminster Hall not the House.

    That said, for anyone who hasn't already done so, please consider 'backing up' your DWP files eg your PIP folder etc and or storing them at a safe address other than your own. Because if this does get through, you could find yourself in a worse position than the postmasters and postmistresses, ie they snatch your own files containing the proof of your innocence, so you can't contest their allegations. It's been mentioned already, but I repeat it hopefully to reach more readers.
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      Sarah · 3 months ago
      @denby Signing the petition is great. Would protesting not work as well. Are signing petitions better?
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      MrFibro · 3 months ago
      @denby Hi Denby,

      Thanks for the info, I have been doing this for a very long time now.  Having copies off site, best to back them up on more than 1 type of media ie cd/dvd and or memory sticks etc just in case one of the backup's has any physical defection or corruption.

      Regards
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