How do you think Labour will treat disabled claimants if, as seems increasingly likely, they form the next government?  Will they be better or worse than the Conservatives?

Last week’s Labour party manifesto left our readers divided on what the future might be like for disabled claimants under Labour.  The document made few references to benefits and gave no clues as to what its attitude would be to major issues such as ESA to UC migration, proposed Green paper changes to PIP or how exactly the WCA might be reformed.

Many readers felt that Labour was just being cautious, because any hint of being soft on claimants would be jumped on by the right-wing press.

Others thought that Labour were saying little because they do not have anything positive to say to disability benefits claimants.  Some think there is little difference between the two parties and some commentors even believe that Labour would be worse news for claimants than the Conservatives.

Certainly, the manifesto could have offered some hope to, for example Carer’s Allowance claimants. A change to the current cliff edge earnings limit would not have major cost implications.

And, to ensure claimant safety, Labour could have offered to look again at the very tight ESA to UC migration deadline imposed on the DWP by the Conservatives.  Delaying the transfer would not cost anything, given that it was previously delayed to 2028 to save money.

Labour could also have stated in the manifesto that they would look at the Green paper proposals for PIP, but that it was unlikely that a voucher system or a catalogue would play any part in any future plans.  Again, this would not have had cost implications.

None of these undertakings would have offered much in the way of ammunition to the right wing press, but all of them would have reassured claimants that Labour would give them some respite from the current relentless attacks.

On the other hand, no part of Labour’s plans include cutting benefits in order to raise cash for other purposes, such as tax cuts.

And, whilst they have said they will replace or reform the WCA, they have not suggested that they will reform PIP.

So, if benefits will play a major part in deciding who you will vote for, readers will have to make an educated guess as to what Labour might do based on minimal information.

Knowing what other claimants are thinking may be helpful in reaching a decision.

So, please take part in our poll to tell us whether you think life would be easier, harder or much the same under Labour rather than the Conservatives and, if you wish, give your reasons in the comments section below.

You can only vote once and we’ll publish the results on Monday 1 July.

This poll is now closed

 

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    · 5 months ago
    I ask a Labour canvasser what they proposed to do about the pip green paper and he could not answer me!
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour are being so vague about there policies on disability benefits that I can only conclude that they intend to be as harsh as the Conservatives are on benefits. I did intend to vote Labour, but I am torn because they won't give clear answers to their intentions. Their go to answer is that they do not want to commit to policies on their Manifesto that they cannot guarantee they will fulfil. How are we expected to vote for a party that refuse to be clear and concise about their intentions?
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    · 5 months ago
    I feel there will be no difference to a Conservative government or it will be worae
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour and the Tories are the Uni-party. The Blair years were particularly harsh on disabled people. Just call me 'Tony' went forward with the Tory plans to toughen DLA criteria.  Once Cameron and Osborn were in power it was all-out war on the disabled. There smear campaign against us was appalling.  It will be more of the same. I trust none of them especially when Starmer is being advised by Osborn and Blair. 
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      · 5 months ago
      @William I still prefer Labour (the creator of the NHS) to the murdering theiving lying sociopathic tories.
      Labour’s achievements 1997 to 2010:

      After inheriting the biggest structural defecit ever seen, higher than all previous governments, the last Labour government:

      * Changed the tax regime and introduced the National Minimum Wage.

      * Hired more than 14,000 extra police in England and Wales.

      * Engineered the Good Friday Agreement and the end to the troubles in NI.

      * Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

      * Oversaw record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

      * Wrote-off up to 100% of debt owed by the world’s poorest countries.

      * Hired 85,000 more nurses and 32,000 more doctors.

      * Introduced 2 weeks paternity leave for the first time.

      * Set-up NHS Direct.

      * Increased Child Benefit by 26%.

      * Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

      * Introduced the Disability Rights Commission.

      * Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

      * Enabled £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & £300 for over-80’s.

      * Hired more than 36,000 extra teachers in England, along with 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

      * Introduced the right to 24 days paid holiday for full-time employees.

      * Lifted a million pensioners and 600,000 children out of poverty.

      * Brought more than 1 million social homes up to standard.

      * Oversaw the largest rolling stock replacement programme ever seen on the railways.

      * Reduced in-patient waiting lists by over half a million.

      * Supervised the cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

      * Rolled-out free TV licences for over-70’s.

      * Made record rises in the state pension.

      * Introduced free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

      * Increased local government funding by a third.

      * Gave free off-peak national bus travel for over-60s.

      * Introduced the Freedom of Information Act.

      * Introduced free eye tests for over 60s.

      * Introduced free entry to national museums and galleries.

      * Overseas Aid budget more than doubled.

      * Heart disease deaths down by 150,000.

      * Cancer deaths down by 50,000.

      * Long-term youth unemployment cut by 75%.

      * Free nursery places for every three and four-year-old.

      * Cut in overall crime by 30 per cent.

      Yes, I know I missed out Iraq.

      ** IRAQ - The decision to support the US in invading Iraq was not an executive decision taken by Blair or the Cabinet. It was voted upon by our Sovereign Parliament and passed with a majority of 263. Every single Tory MP except two voted in favour of the invasion, while a quarter of all Labour MP’s rebelled. The Tories. could have stopped it dead in its tracks and Blair would have had to resign if they’d voted against - but they didn’t - the Tories almost unanimously voted in favour of invading with the US.

      On the other hand:

      Tory achievements - last thirteen years:

      * Legalised gay marriage. Although it was the Lib Dems in coalition who forced this, I’ll be gracious and praise Cameron.

      Back in 2010, following thirteen years of a Labour government, the Tory Party inherited an NHS who’s books were balanced, waiting lists had been slashed and staff morale was high. Nurses and other Public sector workers were paid properly and almost no-one had heard of food-banks or zero-hours contracts. Now, after thirteen years of miserable, crushing Tory austerity, the rich are much richer and the poor are much poorer, the NHS is in ruins, school teachers send begging letters to parents, GP appointments on the same day are a long-gone fantasy, police numbers have been slashed, military personnel are at their lowest level since the Napoleonic wars, both Tory and Labour councils have gone bankrupt, while many less well-off spend winter one room, with heating rationed, wrapped in a blanket, eating Kwik Save baked beans. But when any Tory apologist is stuck for an answer to an awkward question the default position is: “Oh no, we haven’t screwed-up. All this is because of the mess we inherited from Labour - thirteen years ago.

      No it’s not. It’s on you, Tories

      *** Oh, and Labour didn’t cause the global crash - that was the greedy bankers and the US Sub-Prime mortgage scam.. and Sunak made also millions from it!
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    · 5 months ago
    From the information in your newsletter so far for all the political parties, Labour's reluctance to set their stall out and be proud of it gives me no confidence that they will be any different to the Conservatives or in fact because we don't know what they are going to do, they may even be worse. Only the Greens offer significant change for people who need to claim benefits and they are more in line with the environmental issues that I also believe in. 
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      · 5 months ago
      @Claire Johnson I agree, why is Labour alone so secretive about benefits? If they are to be the next government their mantra that they cannot guarantee a single thing is just not good enough. Surely by now, after 14 years in Opposition, they have some access to financial facts denied to the average voter. Voters are being called upon to make a selection on a pitiful amount of information. Just slogans. Not a good look, Labour, and I speak as someone who would like to see Labour as a credible alternative to Tory spending only on their billionaire friends.
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    · 5 months ago
    All words but no action plan raises red flags for me. There are many current state of affairs issues with little or no focus on how to fix them. Being disabled isn't a choice. It happens along with a long string of debilitating illnesses. I worked in retail for over 25 years before arthritis crippled me from the age of 35. My condition like many others isn't a life choice. It happens and there should be support for all. 
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    · 5 months ago
    Sadly I have no faith in either Labour or Conservatives, I would like to vote Lib Dem but again sadly they are making the most noises about Britain being a member of the EU which I don’t support. 
    I voted out yet I didn’t vote for the harsh Brexit , I as well as others only wanted things to roll back to the original Trading and freedom of movement EEC etc before the elite EU club was brought into being.. Trade with Europe is essential and as old as the hills but taking over sovereignty of a country is not good. Look at how Rome fell and learn from history.. 
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour are the same as the Tory’s we need a change 
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    · 5 months ago
    All things being equal , what we do know, is if the tories get in its game over for poor people and the disabled as we all know they are bunch of neo Nazis  especially as if you read between the lines with this consultation they have already decided ( DWP) to replace payments with vouchers . The polls  put the tories  down as "toast" its very unlikely they will form the next government ( unless Labour drop a clanger and blow their chances ( possible but unlikely ) My thoughts are Labour are doing the Ming vase” strategy – the idea being that in order to win, the party must proceed with caution and promise little. This being so, I would has it a guess that they wont say anything about benefits just to make sure the get over the line and form the next government.
    I would argue there will be some  reform but not at the extreme of the Tories will do if elected .
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    · 5 months ago
    If we want actual change, we need to consider ignoring both ‘main’ parties, and choose the most useful 3rd option. I will be voting for the Liberal Democrat’s because I really do want a proper change.
    The conservatives are still wrecking peoples lives, the Labour Party won’t say properly what they want to do so it is hard to see how my life will change under them. 
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    · 5 months ago
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/sunak-brits-dont-have-to-worry-about-cutting-disability-benefits/

    What does this mean?  Will it affect labours approach if they get in.... hopefully!
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      · 5 months ago
      @CaroA He was vague enough for it not to mean anything substantial.  And what has been implied by the headline is not consistent with the manifesto, or his plans to convert some benefits into vouchers rather than giving people actual money. 
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    · 5 months ago
    I wanted to say they'd be supportive, but with a lack of actions in the manifesto, I can't say that. It's just a gut feeling that I think they'll treat disabled and sick people better. I hope, fingers crossed. I have already filled it by postal vote in,  and for the first time, I voted green instead of labour.
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    · 5 months ago
    I would like Labour to be supportive of disabled people, I hope that they will be but their silence concerns me. Hopefully this is only to avoid right wing press attacks. If my candidate knocks on my door I’ll certainly be asking. 
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    · 5 months ago
    I have to ask: what are Labour hiding? If they had anything positive to say, surely they'd have put it in their manifesto? Remembering the Blairite Government's record on benefits, wasn't good, to put it mildly. This bunch are far more right-wing and prone to following the Daily Mail's headlines on policy issues. Be warned!
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    · 5 months ago
    Reeves was my MP. I don't trust her at all. She was in banking herself, and only pays attention to business leaders and getting people into work. Any work.
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    · 5 months ago
    I concur with your previous commentator! 
    Like Westminster, WHY are you not including the 3rd biggest party in the UK, SNP!?! 
    We are not a region, We are a Nation & it is So disrespectful to ignore, other parties. 
    It's Not just about labour & the Tories, there are many millions, who have other beliefs. 
    This is half the problem with the UK politics, there is Far more than these two, that people believe in. 
    As far as PIP, it is now under the Scottish government, the 'Adult disability ' benefit.
    We have been assured by the Gvnt that, we as claiments will, Not have to 'jump thru hoops' as the DWP make us do. 
    However, ESA payments are, still under the DWP, the sooner it is transferred over, the better, I cannot wait! 
    I wouldn't trust labour, as far as I could throw them, I am really concerned about the, 'autocratic' way that Starmer runs his party. 
    If they don't jump to his 'way', then they are out on their ears! 
    He has 'flipped flopped', thru every policy, that he has presented, and has the character of a peanut! 
    Labour are not going to change the benefits system apart from giving people Vouchers to spend, instead of the ESA that people rely on! 
    As far as I am concerned, Labour & Tory, are just the Same. Labour are not making Any moves, for Positive Changes. 
    I hope that people are aware of this, before they make their votes, the promises that labour are making are, just 'promises' at the moment, give what the people want to hear until, After the General election; 
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      · 5 months ago
      @Gwenny Agree. 
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      · 5 months ago
      @Gwenny The SNP only published their manifesto today, so there probably wasn't time to include them as I got my newsletter this morning before the SNP manifesto was even out.
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour will be less harsher (they will be obviously strict) but they will not be (I think) like tories.....but again I don't trust labour at all.
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    · 5 months ago
    Labour are tories under a different name same policys no new ideas still working with the broken system 
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    · 5 months ago
    I’m hopeful Labour will be less harsh than the Tories but without any clear information from them, it is just hope! It is a desperate situation being so fearful of receiving DWP letters and wondering what new obstacles you have to navigate. Not being able to work due to long term illness is not a choice. Keeping my fingers crossed seems all I can do at this point!! 
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    · 5 months ago
    I hope that Labour will be more supportive to benefit claimants, however have voted as less harsh as not able to back my thoughts up with facts.

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